View Full Version : Sh*t - Did you know Brian St. Pierre is on the Cardinals?

01-25-2009, 05:53 PM
I'm getting kind of worried about us pulling a "Raiders", as in the Bucs winning the Superbowl against them because they knew all the plays, ESPECIALLY all the audibles. Remember Gannon getting pulverized all day long, throwing 5 pics, 3 of which were run back for TDs?

I think that's a real disadvantage to us, having to a) change the audibles that we've gotten used to for like 3 or 4 seasons probably, and b) having to draw up plays with Whiz, Grimm, and Co.'s experience on the Steelers in mind. This is just the kind of problem a new coaching staff might not give as much attention to as they should ...

Talk me down, brothers, talk me down!

01-25-2009, 05:59 PM
Relax, 2 years removed and a different OC with different tendencys. They are not using Whiz's playbook anymore.

Brian is the 3rd string and does not play defense either.

01-25-2009, 06:05 PM
Since Tomlin was on the Bucs staff when they won the SB, I'm sure he's not going to let them pull a Raiders on us he was part of it and won't let it happen.

01-25-2009, 06:21 PM
Yes I did.

Not worried.

BSP = Scrub (in many ways)

01-25-2009, 06:29 PM
Since Tomlin was on the Bucs staff when they won the SB, I'm sure he's not going to let them pull a Raiders on us he was part of it and won't let it happen.

:Bow :Bow

Thank you!

01-25-2009, 08:03 PM
Brian St Pierre.
Sounds like a 4th-line left wing
on an AHL team.

No worries.

01-25-2009, 08:09 PM
Brian St Pierre.
Sounds like a 4th-line left wing
on an AHL team.

That was almost a haiku! Get rid of a syllable in last line, and you are golden. :lol:

01-25-2009, 08:11 PM
Brian St Pierre.
Sounds like a 4th-line left wing
on an AHL team.

That was almost a haiku! Get rid of a syllable in last line, and you are golden. :lol:

Brian St Pierre.
Sounds like a 4th-line left wing
on AHL team.

I'll share the publishing rights with ya, RB.

01-25-2009, 08:20 PM
Article in NYT - advantage neither, it says:

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The New York Times

January 25, 2009
Systematic Edge in Super Bowl? Steelers Say No

Filed at 6:59 p.m. ET

TAMPA, Fla. (AP) -- Yes, Arizona coach Ken Whisenhunt knows the Pittsburgh Steelers' offense like no one else from another team. He helped design it. He taught Ben Roethlisberger to run it. His system enabled the Steelers to win a Super Bowl three years ago.

Edge, Cardinals.

Then there's this angle: No one knows Ken Whisenhunt's offense like Dick LeBeau, the Steelers' defensive coordinator and Whisenhunt's good friend. Their Wednesday practice sessions together when Bill Cowher was coach were competitive, even if Whisenhunt's starters seldom went against LeBeau's regular defenders.

''Coach Cowher would keep track of that all the time, so whoever Bill was mad at that day, the other guy won,'' LeBeau said.

Edge, LeBeau. Sometimes.

All this who-knows-what intrigue creates an interesting story line for an unlikely Super Bowl matchup: The Steelers against the team they call Steelers West for all the transplanted former Pittsburgh coaches and players with Arizona. Among them is Whisenhunt's top assistant, Russ Grimm, the other finalist when Mike Tomlin was hired as Pittsburgh's coach two years ago.

''It is different, I won't lie, because they are my friends. You want your friends to be successful, and this is one game I would prefer that they not be,'' LeBeau said of Whisenhunt and Grimm. ''Kenny and I were really close friends, we played golf together all the time. We were both on the same skill level, so we could never be on the same team.''

They won't be on Sunday, either, as the man still known as Whis in the Steelers' locker room opposes one of football's resident defensive wizards in LeBeau. The Steelers were No. 1 in the league in fewest yards, points and passing yards allowed and, at least statistically, they have one of the NFL's top defenses in the last quarter-century.

So where's the advantage? Tomlin doesn't see one.

''Ken Whisenhunt is not going to play a snap and Dick LeBeau is not going to play a snap,'' Tomlin said. ''It's going to be execution. As coaches, we've got to put guys in great positions, situationally, to take advantage of their skills. But that's not going to be the story of this football game. Quite frankly, football evolves. Teams evolve. Schemes evolve.''

Coordinators evolve, too.

The zone blitzes LeBeau calls aren't necessarily the same as they were when Whisenhunt was on the staff, just as the pass plays the Cardinals call for Larry Fitzgerald aren't the ones Whisenhunt called in Pittsburgh.

''I think it's a wash because anything Kenny knows about me, I know about him,'' LeBeau said. ''I would think it would come down to how our players play. ... I am not matching wits with anyone.''

Advantage, no one.

To Steelers defensive end Brett Keisel, the key is figuring out what the Steelers don't know about the Kurt Warner-Larry Fitzgerald-Edgerrin James offense. They began preparing for Arizona in practice last week and will resume doing so when they arrive in Tampa on Monday.

''Whis has cards up his sleeve he likes to pull out,'' Keisel said. ''We'll prepare for it during the week. That's basically all you can do.''

The one wild card in all the speculation about who has the strategical edge is whether the Steelers adopt a win-one-for-LeBeau mindset. At 71, LeBeau is the NFL's oldest assistant coach yet is one of its most skilled, and his players talk openly about their love and respect for him.

LeBeau is giving no sign he might retire after this game but, at his age, he admittedly goes season to season. And what better way to go out than to win a second Super Bowl in four seasons, then retire to the golf course?

''It is a young man's job, I am aware of that. I think that my players will probably let me know when I'm too old. You would have to ask them, but they haven't given me any indication that they want me out the door,'' LeBeau said. ''I like what I'm doing and I love the guys I'm doing it with. I don't know how you're supposed to feel at 71, but I feel pretty good.''

Doesn't sound like a coach ready to ride off into the Super Bowl sunset. Still, it could be an incalculable motivational boost should his players get any sign this might be LeBeau's last game.

Edge, LeBeau.

The Steelers also want to be mentioned as being one of the best defenses of their time, and shutting down Air Arizona and winning the Super Bowl would help accomplish that. As linebacker James Farrior said, ''This last game is going to determine a lot with how we're remembered.''

''You've got to go out there and win the Super Bowl or it's nothing,'' defensive lineman Casey Hampton said. ''It's like your season was nothing.''

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01-26-2009, 02:33 AM
I hope they have to put him in!


01-26-2009, 04:50 PM
what can frenchy give them that Whiz doesn't have? They'll have a good book on us, and they'll use it. They stuck it to us last year in Arizona.

01-26-2009, 09:50 PM
I think we will be fine! As much as they know about us Lebeau knows the same amount about them. Our offensive players know that playbook forward and back and I am sure they will use that advantage as well!!! I'm not too worried about that aspect of the game for some reason!!! I think it will ultimately come down to which team makes the more clutch plays and I definitely like our chances with our D!

As far as BSP goes....I could actually see the guy being a coach later on in life!!! Very cerebral....your typical 3rd string/future coach!! Just a hunch!!