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stlrz d
11-25-2008, 09:02 PM
Is who Terrell Davis picked as the Defensive Player of the Year in the AFC at this point in the season. Just mentioned it on NFLN.

Does TD no longer watch football?

Ozey74
11-25-2008, 09:04 PM
Maybe TD is scared he will get his face stepped on if he says somebody else.

RuthlessBurgher
11-25-2008, 09:32 PM
Maybe TD is scared he will get his face stepped on if he says somebody else.

:lol:

RKSteel
11-25-2008, 09:47 PM
The dope sports columist in our newsaper here in NY mentioned AH as MVP also. His stats going into the Jet game, 7 sacks lead team, 15 QB pressures (tied), "super quick off the ball and bull strong."

I must have just drank some kool aid, cause right now Harrison's stats blow AH away. Harrison has 12.5 sacks, 25 QB pressure, 2 FF and 2 Int and he makes game changing plays.

No comparison in my book, if Harrison keeps up his pace, it would be an injustice if he wasn't voted DMVP.

RuthlessBurgher
11-25-2008, 09:54 PM
The dope sports columist in our newsaper here in NY mentioned AH as MVP also. His stats going into the Jet game, 7 sacks lead team, 15 QB pressures (tied), "super quick off the ball and bull strong."

I must have just drank some kool aid, cause right now Harrison's stats blow AH away. Harrison has 12.5 sacks, 25 QB pressure, 2 FF and 2 Int and he makes game changing plays.

No comparison in my book, if Harrison keeps up his pace, it would be an injustice if he wasn't voted DMVP.

There is a pretty significant difference between a 3-4 OLB and a 4-3 DT, though, so it is difficult to compare stats for players at those two positions straight up. You have to admit that Haynesworth is perhaps the top interior d-lineman in the game today. Albert wouldn't necessarily get my vote for defensive player of the year, but he's most definitely in the conversation, no doubt.

RKSteel
11-25-2008, 10:01 PM
I hear you RB, but its like back in 2004, Farrior should have won the DMVP that year, except Ed Reed had a 100 yd int for a TD he got the votes.

Solid player v. "splash" plays, what do the voters remember?

Steel Life
11-25-2008, 10:02 PM
Does anything TD says strike you as being well thought out?

RuthlessBurgher
11-25-2008, 10:25 PM
Does anything TD says strike you as being well thought out?

It is funny to watch T.D. black out when flying in the FA-18 Hornet.

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John Elway laughing at him the whole time is priceless.

SteelerOfDeVille
11-25-2008, 11:23 PM
Does anything TD says strike you as being well thought out?

It is funny to watch T.D. black out when flying in the FA-18 Hornet.

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John Elway laughing at him the whole time is priceless.
that's FUNNY.

stlrz d
11-25-2008, 11:49 PM
He's like a little baby nodding off in a car seat. :P

steelblood
11-26-2008, 08:36 AM
I find Haynesworth as viable as Harrison. He is not only a penetrating 4-3 DT, but also a run stuffing power DT that occupies two blockers and frees up the LBers (a la Grady Jackson or Casey Hampton). He is as good as there is and is having a fantastic season.

stlrz d
11-26-2008, 08:59 AM
I wasn't saying that AH isn't a great player, but the way it went down on the show I got the impression that the only reason he took AH is because of all the hype surrounding the team.

If Silverback continues on the pace he's on and doesn't get the DMVP it will be a crime.

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
11-26-2008, 11:08 AM
The dope sports columist in our newsaper here in NY mentioned AH as MVP also. His stats going into the Jet game, 7 sacks lead team, 15 QB pressures (tied), "super quick off the ball and bull strong."

I must have just drank some kool aid, cause right now Harrison's stats blow AH away. Harrison has 12.5 sacks, 25 QB pressure, 2 FF and 2 Int and he makes game changing plays.

No comparison in my book, if Harrison keeps up his pace, it would be an injustice if he wasn't voted DMVP.

There is a pretty significant difference between a 3-4 OLB and a 4-3 DT, though, so it is difficult to compare stats for players at those two positions straight up. You have to admit that Haynesworth is perhaps the top interior d-lineman in the game today. Albert wouldn't necessarily get my vote for defensive player of the year, but he's most definitely in the conversation, no doubt.

Agreed, of course you can't count stats to compare the two. Take a look at Casey. Even all those years when he was at the top of his game - and the league - as a force in the middle, his best season he had only 2 sacks. Now, of course the 3-4 NT is different than the 4-3 DT, but there is more similarities than there is between a 4-3 DT and a 3-4 OLB.

Haynesworth is the leader on the #2 D, and the #1 team in the league. He is having a great year. To deny this is blindness. However, there is as much to say about the leader of the league's #1 D. IMO Harrison is having the better year, but could find some difficulty winning the award. His biggest problem is Troy. The two of them could easily split votes with another candidate sliding in between them for the win. It could be AH, but it could also be Porter (I don't think so, I see his performance falling off a bit down the stretch), or Ware (also a very good year, but on a bad D).

As of right now those are probably your top 5, but remember, still 5 games to go.

papillon
11-26-2008, 12:03 PM
I wasn't saying that AH isn't a great player, but the way it went down on the show I got the impression that the only reason he took AH is because of all the hype surrounding the team.

If Silverback continues on the pace he's on and doesn't get the DMVP it will be a crime.

It will probably come down to who's team goes the farthest into the playoffs.

Pappy

steelz09
11-26-2008, 12:23 PM
I think Polamalu should beat out Harrison. Don't get me wrong, Harrison is a beast and definitely deserving of the reward, but Polamalu is playing lights-out right now.

Polamalu makes plays that most NFL players simply don't have the athleticism or ability to make. That one-handed interception is a perfect example. That was simply a ridiculous play and maybe the best catch of the year.

Jooser
11-26-2008, 02:05 PM
Davis had better check his closet before he nods off to slumber land tonight, hard to tell who may be in there waiting for him (just ask the boogie man). And by the way, if Elway had blacked out, he may have cracked the cockpit canopy with his teeth, so thank god for that.

Harrison definitely has my vote for DMVP. Haynesworth is playing very well, but JH is an unstoppable force in the pass rush. If he as a weakness, it's that he over persues sometimes and misses tackles on RBs (something field turf may help with, the slippage and all :stirpot ). Please noone tell him I said that! :shock: