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Iron Shiek
10-24-2008, 03:26 PM
Wow, this could be opening up Pandora's Box possibly. I guess its because of water pills... :wft



http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2008/10/suspensions-could-be-coming/


Suspensions Could Be Coming
From ESPN.com:

A number of NFL players — including Deuce McAllister and Will Smith of the New Orleans Saints — have tested positive under the NFL’s steroid policy as a result of taking water pills to lose weight, according to a report from Fox 31-Denver reporter Josina Anderson.

Anderson’s report cited “a rash of positive tests.” The number is more than 10 and may exceed 15, two sources have told ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen.

Attorney David Cornwell told Mortensen he has been retained by “a number of players” to represent them in the NFL appeals process, but Cornwell wouldn’t say who those players were or the exact number who have retained his legal services.



Smith’s listed agent, Joel Segal, was not immediately available to comment, according to Fox 31-Denver. A representative for McAllister’s agent, Jim Steiner, said the agent would call that station back.



Under the NFL’s steroid policy, a player’s first positive test results in a four-game suspension.



According to Anderson’s report, McAllister and Smith are part of a group that tested positive for a diuretic known as Bumetanide. Others tested positive for a different substance.



“Most of them tested positive for Bumetanide,” said the league source, according to Fox 31-Denver. “The last few tested positive for another substance that works similarly.”



A source told Fox 31-Denver that Bumetanide “can also mask the use of other drugs or steroids.”

Bumetanide is a drug belonging to a group of medicines called loop diuretics or “water pills.” Its uses include the treatment of fluid retention and swelling caused by medical conditions such as congestive heart failure, liver disease, and kidney disease, Fox 31-Denver reported.

costanza2k1
10-25-2008, 01:29 PM
At first I was thinking these guys were using a magic pill to lose some weight but now I see this pill can be a masking agent for Roids...this could open up a bigger issue across the NFL. Watch for the commish to sweep this under the rug somehow to protect the integrity of the NFL. He seems to be doing that a lot.

BigLebowski
10-25-2008, 01:50 PM
I have been thinking about this for a while now and I have come to the conclusion that either the players are just plain stupid or they really don't know what their trainers are giving them. I know it seems amazing but how else can there be so many people getting busted for the same substances????? They all can't be stupid can they?

AngryAsian
10-25-2008, 03:44 PM
I have been thinking about this for a while now and I have come to the conclusion that either the players are just plain stupid or they really don't know what their trainers are giving them. I know it seems amazing but how else can there be so many people getting busted for the same substances????? They all can't be stupid can they?


BL, I don't think it is stupidity as it is ignorance. I think that maybe the trainers that aided these players with these substances were under the notion that this "flush" system was full proof in hiding the steroidal markers in the body. Obviously it wasn't as dependable as they thought. As science evolves so do the testing procedures that the league uses to enforce their policies.

BigLebowski
10-25-2008, 05:19 PM
I have been thinking about this for a while now and I have come to the conclusion that either the players are just plain stupid or they really don't know what their trainers are giving them. I know it seems amazing but how else can there be so many people getting busted for the same substances????? They all can't be stupid can they?


BL, I don't think it is stupidity as it is ignorance. I think that maybe the trainers that aided these players with these substances were under the notion that this "flush" system was full proof in hiding the steroidal markers in the body. Obviously it wasn't as dependable as they thought. As science evolves so do the testing procedures that the league uses to enforce their policies.

Ignorance might explain it better. These "water pills" are banned substances because they are masking agents.
:HeadBanger :HeadBanger :HeadBanger :HeadBanger

Some idiots are ill-informed, I guess. :lol:

AngryAsian
10-25-2008, 05:31 PM
I have been thinking about this for a while now and I have come to the conclusion that either the players are just plain stupid or they really don't know what their trainers are giving them. I know it seems amazing but how else can there be so many people getting busted for the same substances????? They all can't be stupid can they?


BL, I don't think it is stupidity as it is ignorance. I think that maybe the trainers that aided these players with these substances were under the notion that this "flush" system was full proof in hiding the steroidal markers in the body. Obviously it wasn't as dependable as they thought. As science evolves so do the testing procedures that the league uses to enforce their policies.

Ignorance might explain it better. These "water pills" are banned substances because they are masking agents.
:HeadBanger :HeadBanger :HeadBanger :HeadBanger

Some idiots are ill-informed, I guess. :lol:


Glad to see you back, BL. I'm glad the ole ticker is as strong as STEEL!