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Ozey74
09-02-2008, 04:42 PM
For undisclosed draft pick (per ESPN 1250)

SteelerNation1
09-02-2008, 04:47 PM
6th round pick according to KDKA! Did they take all of his salary???? If so, that is great news and maybe we can extend Kemo or Bmac now.

Eddie Spaghetti
09-02-2008, 04:50 PM
fantastic news.

at least the FO admitted their mistake.

Jigawatts
09-02-2008, 04:54 PM
I feel like break dancing. :Cheers

rpmpit
09-02-2008, 04:57 PM
C-YA!!!

:tt1

Jom112
09-02-2008, 04:58 PM
God D%&^ it.

Any chance Central Michigan will take Ghiaciuc back?

SanAntonioSteelerFan
09-02-2008, 05:09 PM
Holy Cannoli - this is incredible. :Cheers

Who is the back up center now, though?

BigRob
09-02-2008, 05:20 PM
Holy Cannoli - this is incredible. :Cheers

Who is the back up center now, though?

Stapleton is the first back up at rg and center

AkronSteel
09-02-2008, 05:22 PM
This is great news!!! I am so happy about this move. From what I have heard the Bucs took all of his $ so it just keeps getting better. Who does the team intend to sign is the better question at this point? I would suspect that Stapleton is the backup in the middle, but the team has an open roster spot at this point.

costanza2k1
09-02-2008, 05:31 PM
I feel like break dancing. :Cheers

I just did 1/2 a back spin, got dizzy, and just laid there smiling.

Les 74
09-02-2008, 05:31 PM
This is a sad,sad day in Pittsburgh.We've lost a very good OL today.Sean was an inspiration and will be missed!!!!
















And if you believe that one,I own some prime swamp land in Florida for ya. :lol: :lol:

costanza2k1
09-02-2008, 05:33 PM
6th round pick according to KDKA! Did they take all of his salary???? If so, that is great news and maybe we can extend Kemo or Bmac now.

Salary goes with it!

Meanwhile Ed Douchette has all the inside info in his chat today:


Taz: Hi Ed. How close did the Steelers come to trading a lineman? Could they have had the option to pay off Max's salary to make trading him more palatable to a potential suitor?

Ed Bouchette: They haven't said how close, but I don't believe very. No, unlike in baseball, they could not pay Starks' salary and trade him.

Flasteel
09-02-2008, 05:35 PM
Okay, now we're down to 52 players...so what's the next move? Is this being done with designs on bringing in a specific player? Could we be looking at finally sending Colon to guard and going after Willie Anderson?

Nah, makes too much sense.

SanAntonioSteelerFan
09-02-2008, 05:39 PM
I trust the FO to do the right thing, I would think that means making sure we have someone to step in if Hartwig goes down. Does that mean we sign a backup center, or do we focus on our glaring 1st string front line challenges?

ikestops85
09-02-2008, 05:42 PM
This is great news!!! I am so happy about this move. From what I have heard the Bucs took all of his $ so it just keeps getting better. Who does the team intend to sign is the better question at this point? I would suspect that Stapleton is the backup in the middle, but the team has an open roster spot at this point.

LeCharles Bentley. Here is a guy that could give us quality depth at both center and guard. He has had 2 years to recover from his knee injury so it should be fully healed. I know ... he hasn't played for 2 years but that just means he doesn't have much mileage on him. Remember, here is a guy that was Pro Bowl caliber before the injury so why wouldn't he be again after he knocks the rust off? I think he would be a starter within the year.

costanza2k1
09-02-2008, 05:43 PM
I wonder how the Bucs fans feel right now...could you imagine them trading him back to us next year? I would go insane! They must be close to tears...

SteelerOfDeVille
09-02-2008, 05:52 PM
This is great news!!! I am so happy about this move. From what I have heard the Bucs took all of his $ so it just keeps getting better. Who does the team intend to sign is the better question at this point? I would suspect that Stapleton is the backup in the middle, but the team has an open roster spot at this point.

LeCharles Bentley. Here is a guy that could give us quality depth at both center and guard. He has had 2 years to recover from his knee injury so it should be fully healed. I know ... he hasn't played for 2 years but that just means he doesn't have much mileage on him. Remember, here is a guy that was Pro Bowl caliber before the injury so why wouldn't he be again after he knocks the rust off? I think he would be a starter within the year.
Solid idea... I liek the Willie Anderson idea too... like I joked on VegasLive... Detriot cut a lineman... expect to see him in black and gold if he hasn't been signed by anyone.

SteelHoss
09-02-2008, 05:57 PM
Is it to late to organize a going away party or is he on the plane already? Its apparent that Tomlin and the FO were not happy with Mahan's comments after not being named the starter. Is he ego tripping or what? :lol: :lol: :tt1 :tt1

blacknblue80s
09-02-2008, 06:16 PM
I feel like break dancing. :Cheers

I might have to bust the hellicopter...

DANCE OFF!!!

BigBen2112
09-02-2008, 06:20 PM
I cant believe how much we are rejoicing b/c this piece of trash was traded for a 7th round pick.

I will rejoice when we get rid of 3/4 of our OL and spend 2 full drafts addressing the lines so that we have at least some competency at those line positions.

I just cant believe the Bucs for some reason traded for this hunk of crap.

Les 74
09-02-2008, 06:26 PM
I cant believe how much we are rejoicing b/c this piece of trash was traded for a 7th round pick.

I will rejoice when we get rid of 3/4 of our OL and spend 2 full drafts addressing the lines so that we have at least some competency at those line positions.




Baby steps,dude.........baby steps. :lol:

phillyesq
09-02-2008, 06:37 PM
This is great news. Yes, the Steelers wasted money. And, yes, they didn't get a great return. But it's great to see Mahan gone.

I wonder if they'll bring in a veteran, or somebody from the Practice Squad. I doubt they'd activate Parquet. Maybe Roy Lewis though?

Shawn
09-02-2008, 06:37 PM
This is great news!!! I am so happy about this move. From what I have heard the Bucs took all of his $ so it just keeps getting better. Who does the team intend to sign is the better question at this point? I would suspect that Stapleton is the backup in the middle, but the team has an open roster spot at this point.

LeCharles Bentley. Here is a guy that could give us quality depth at both center and guard. He has had 2 years to recover from his knee injury so it should be fully healed. I know ... he hasn't played for 2 years but that just means he doesn't have much mileage on him. Remember, here is a guy that was Pro Bowl caliber before the injury so why wouldn't he be again after he knocks the rust off? I think he would be a starter within the year.

If he will come in reasonable...I'm all for it.

Man the Bucs must have been desperate.

Discipline of Steel
09-02-2008, 06:45 PM
By my count, that leaves 9 OL, with three backup tackles, so it only makes sense that the replacement will be an interior OL. LeCharles could be interesting but he may be PUP. If they are looking for experience, Mike Flynn might have something to offer as a situational sub although he is a little long in the tooth. He did spend his summer with the Patriots. Another alternative might be a big fat TE, with FatMax squeezing everyone left should an injury occur at C/RG. I dont see them adding a no name (including Parquet) to the mix. It will be interesting to see what is up their sleeve. I just thank Goodness the rag doll, and his salary, were moved.

steelblood
09-02-2008, 06:48 PM
This is great news!!! I am so happy about this move. From what I have heard the Bucs took all of his $ so it just keeps getting better. Who does the team intend to sign is the better question at this point? I would suspect that Stapleton is the backup in the middle, but the team has an open roster spot at this point.

LeCharles Bentley. Here is a guy that could give us quality depth at both center and guard. He has had 2 years to recover from his knee injury so it should be fully healed. I know ... he hasn't played for 2 years but that just means he doesn't have much mileage on him. Remember, here is a guy that was Pro Bowl caliber before the injury so why wouldn't he be again after he knocks the rust off? I think he would be a starter within the year.

I don't know why we didn't sign him a month ago.

Mel Blount's G
09-02-2008, 07:08 PM
Either LeCharles or Willie would be ok by me but I'm not holding my breath. Surely we can find someone of Mahan's *caliber*

Buh bye Mahandyman. Don't let the door hit ya on the way out...
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stlrz d
09-02-2008, 07:39 PM
I feel like break dancing. :Cheers

You are so 80s.

I'm krupming! :lol:

Chemsteel
09-02-2008, 07:41 PM
If Coach Tomlin does not bring up Sherrod then look for a veteran next week after the first game. If a veteran is signed after the first week he can be put on the roster on a week to week basis.

calmkiller
09-02-2008, 08:07 PM
YES YES YES THANK YOU!!!!!! I AM SO HAPPY!!!!

phillyesq
09-02-2008, 08:07 PM
If Coach Tomlin does not bring up Sherrod then look for a veteran next week after the first game. If a veteran is signed after the first week he can be put on the roster on a week to week basis.

Very good point on a veteran signing, Chem. I didn't think about the vested veteran issue at first.

If they go that route, do you think that they would add somebody with less experience for week 1, even though that player would likely be inactive, and release them after? Can they go into a week with less than a full compliment?

SteelTorch
09-02-2008, 08:48 PM
Awesome news! :tt2 One down, two to go:

http://www.steelertribute.com/maxstarks.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2112/1518437921_58b0e43032.jpg?v=0

:mrgreen:

Steel Life
09-02-2008, 08:57 PM
All rejoicing aside (& there is much rejoicing...yay! :Cheers ) there is a flip-side to this whole mess...the contractual issues.

At the current time there are 9 OL - & almost as many contract issues...

Marvel: UFA after the season
Kemo: RFA after the season
Hartwig: Only signed to a 2-year contract.
Simmons: 2nd year of a 4-year contract.
Colon: RFA after the season
Starks: UFA after the season
Essex: UFA after the season
Stapleton: 2nd year of Rookie Contract (3 yrs.)
Hills: Rookie Contract (3 yrs.)

Regardless of what we do with the extra spot (& salary-cap space) this doesn't fix what is a bad situation.

BTW - Before we cheer Colbert too much for finally pulling the plug on this disastrous signing...think about the fact that he only got a 7th for Mahan, while the Bucs turned around & traded their dead-weight guy (G - Dan Buenning) to the Bears for a 2009 6th-round pick. And before you say that Buenning must be better than Mahan, take into account that while he started 16 games as a rookie, he only started seven games in 2006 and didn't start or play a game last season.

So in the end, our starting center from last year is worth less (a 7th pick) than a guy who didn't play a game at all last year (6th pick)....now that is some GMing. :oops: :evil:

Shawn
09-02-2008, 09:07 PM
After the season...Smith and Starks are gone. We resign everyone else on the cheap. That is the Steeler way.

Oviedo
09-02-2008, 09:46 PM
You heard it here first. We have a Guard ready to step in. Unfortunately he is playing RT. We will see against the Texans that Colon can't handle the outside speed rush. Before the end of the season it will be:

Smith-Colon-Hartwig-Kemo-Starks

RuthlessBurgher
09-02-2008, 09:53 PM
You heard it here first. We have a Guard ready to step in. Unfortunately he is playing RT. We will see against the Texans that Colon can't handle the outside speed rush. Before the end of the season it will be:

Smith-Colon-Hartwig-Kemo-Starks

I've been promoting those 5 guys in that order since before training camp started. You want your nasty guys in the interior, and they don't come much nastier than Colon and Kemo.

Mel Blount's G
09-02-2008, 09:57 PM
A request to FlaSteel or any other photoshop master:




Please photoshop a picture of starks counting a handful of cash or holding a bag of money or something similar. I can use that to answer all these thread topics on max like I've used Flasteel's brilliant photopic of mahan so often.

Thank you. :tt2

RuthlessBurgher
09-02-2008, 10:24 PM
A request to FlaSteel or any other photoshop master:




Please photoshop a picture of starks counting a handful of cash or holding a bag of money or something similar. I can use that to answer all these thread topics on max like I've used Flasteel's brilliant photopic of mahan so often.

Thank you. :tt2

I'm no Photoshop master, but I have been known to make it rain from time to time. :lol:

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u62/niqueoh/MaxMoney.jpg

fordfixer
09-02-2008, 10:33 PM
A request to FlaSteel or any other photoshop master:




Please photoshop a picture of starks counting a handful of cash or holding a bag of money or something similar. I can use that to answer all these thread topics on max like I've used Flasteel's brilliant photopic of mahan so often.

Thank you. :tt2

I'm no Photoshop master, but I have been known to make it rain from time to time. :lol:

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u62/niqueoh/MaxMoney.jpg
:Clap :Clap

phillyesq
09-02-2008, 10:33 PM
All rejoicing aside (& there is much rejoicing...yay! :Cheers ) there is a flip-side to this whole mess...the contractual issues.

At the current time there are 9 OL - & almost as many contract issues...

Marvel: UFA after the season
Kemo: RFA after the season
Hartwig: Only signed to a 2-year contract.
Simmons: 2nd year of a 4-year contract.
Colon: RFA after the season
Starks: UFA after the season
Essex: UFA after the season
Stapleton: 2nd year of Rookie Contract (3 yrs.)
Hills: Rookie Contract (3 yrs.)

Regardless of what we do with the extra spot (& salary-cap space) this doesn't fix what is a bad situation.

BTW - Before we cheer Colbert too much for finally pulling the plug on this disastrous signing...think about the fact that he only got a 7th for Mahan, while the Bucs turned around & traded their dead-weight guy (G - Dan Buenning) to the Bears for a 2009 6th-round pick. And before you say that Buenning must be better than Mahan, take into account that while he started 16 games as a rookie, he only started seven games in 2006 and didn't start or play a game last season.

So in the end, our starting center from last year is worth less (a 7th pick) than a guy who didn't play a game at all last year (6th pick)....now that is some GMing. :oops: :evil:

In defense of Colbert, there were widely reported rumors that Mahan demanded a trade. The trade demand reduces his value throughout the league, because it kind of puts the Steelers in a bind. This isn't a desirable player demanding a trade -- it's Sean Mahan. So I'm just happy that the Steelers were able to get any return at all, rather than just releasing him.

RuthlessBurgher
09-02-2008, 10:36 PM
All rejoicing aside (& there is much rejoicing...yay! :Cheers ) there is a flip-side to this whole mess...the contractual issues.

At the current time there are 9 OL - & almost as many contract issues...

Marvel: UFA after the season
Kemo: RFA after the season
Hartwig: Only signed to a 2-year contract.
Simmons: 2nd year of a 4-year contract.
Colon: RFA after the season
Starks: UFA after the season
Essex: UFA after the season
Stapleton: 2nd year of Rookie Contract (3 yrs.)
Hills: Rookie Contract (3 yrs.)

Regardless of what we do with the extra spot (& salary-cap space) this doesn't fix what is a bad situation.

BTW - Before we cheer Colbert too much for finally pulling the plug on this disastrous signing...think about the fact that he only got a 7th for Mahan, while the Bucs turned around & traded their dead-weight guy (G - Dan Buenning) to the Bears for a 2009 6th-round pick. And before you say that Buenning must be better than Mahan, take into account that while he started 16 games as a rookie, he only started seven games in 2006 and didn't start or play a game last season.

So in the end, our starting center from last year is worth less (a 7th pick) than a guy who didn't play a game at all last year (6th pick)....now that is some GMing. :oops: :evil:

In defense of Colbert, there were widely reported rumors that Mahan demanded a trade. The trade demand reduces his value throughout the league, because it kind of puts the Steelers in a bind. This isn't a desirable player demanding a trade -- it's Sean Mahan. So I'm just happy that the Steelers were able to get any return at all, rather than just releasing him.

Just releasing him outright still would have resulted in a party with cake for everyone.

Trading him and getting any draft pick in return calls for a party with cake and ice cream too.

Mel Blount's G
09-02-2008, 10:41 PM
A request to FlaSteel or any other photoshop master:




Please photoshop a picture of starks counting a handful of cash or holding a bag of money or something similar. I can use that to answer all these thread topics on max like I've used Flasteel's brilliant photopic of mahan so often.

Thank you. :tt2

I'm no Photoshop master, but I have been known to make it rain from time to time. :lol:

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u62/niqueoh/MaxMoney.jpg
Alright, ok, not bad. i think we might need him to be counting (or showered with) his money whilst riding the bench


I don't know where these picks came from but they surely have some potential :lol:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/98/246131577_d296422018.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/25/98076826_1e27ae07f3.jpg

Shawn
09-02-2008, 11:24 PM
You heard it here first. We have a Guard ready to step in. Unfortunately he is playing RT. We will see against the Texans that Colon can't handle the outside speed rush. Before the end of the season it will be:

Smith-Colon-Hartwig-Kemo-Starks

Wow, I certainly hope not. Colon is a bad RT...Starks is a horrific RT. Now, if you said

Starks-Colon-Hartwig-Kemo-Smith...I might be happy with that. Starks isn't bad at LT...Colon has always been better geared to be a guard. Smith can play either.

Flasteel
09-02-2008, 11:42 PM
A request to FlaSteel or any other photoshop master:




Please photoshop a picture of starks counting a handful of cash or holding a bag of money or something similar. I can use that to answer all these thread topics on max like I've used Flasteel's brilliant photopic of mahan so often.

Thank you. :tt2

Wow, Photoshop master. Thanks Mel.

Unfortunately, I'm going to have to decline your invitation for two reasons.

1. Ruthless had already made it rain.

2. I think the Max Starks signing was a good move regardless of the cash thrown his way. I cannot in good conscience contribute to the smearing of his name. :lol:

BigBen2112
09-03-2008, 06:45 AM
All rejoicing aside (& there is much rejoicing...yay! :Cheers ) there is a flip-side to this whole mess...the contractual issues.

At the current time there are 9 OL - & almost as many contract issues...

Marvel: UFA after the season
Kemo: RFA after the season
Hartwig: Only signed to a 2-year contract.
Simmons: 2nd year of a 4-year contract.
Colon: RFA after the season
Starks: UFA after the season
Essex: UFA after the season
Stapleton: 2nd year of Rookie Contract (3 yrs.)
Hills: Rookie Contract (3 yrs.)

Regardless of what we do with the extra spot (& salary-cap space) this doesn't fix what is a bad situation.

BTW - Before we cheer Colbert too much for finally pulling the plug on this disastrous signing...think about the fact that he only got a 7th for Mahan, while the Bucs turned around & traded their dead-weight guy (G - Dan Buenning) to the Bears for a 2009 6th-round pick. And before you say that Buenning must be better than Mahan, take into account that while he started 16 games as a rookie, he only started seven games in 2006 and didn't start or play a game last season.

So in the end, our starting center from last year is worth less (a 7th pick) than a guy who didn't play a game at all last year (6th pick)....now that is some GMing. :oops: :evil:

I do agree with you on the above, BUT...they are said to have taken the whole Mahan contract which is easily bigger than that of Buenning, which could also be a reason for the compensation difference.

Now I cant wait until Starks is gone, Simmons is gone, Colon moves inside, and we draft a whole new offensive line.

frankthetank1
09-03-2008, 07:17 AM
this is great news!! i cant believe the bucs would want him back

steelblood
09-03-2008, 07:35 AM
Mahan's trade is good for this team, now and for the future.

Kemo and Colon can both be retained next year without breaking the bank (especially if we extend Kemo now). Smith may walk, but they need to let him play the year out and see if his back holds up. IF it does, you could make him an offer. IF not, we can go after a FA since we won't have STarks, Smith, or MAhan's salaries on our books any more. We'd have Stapleton, Hills, a journeyman, and a couple of draft picks for depth. Not too bad.

Iron Shiek
09-03-2008, 08:33 AM
WORD!


That's in response to the thread title.

Somebody mentioned all the contractual issues coming up with nearly all of our linemen. Maybe the FO will take Benny's stance and are positioning themselves for an overhaul, keeping one maybe two guys and bringing in some fresh blood. May not be good for chemistry, but screw it if we can bring in some able bodies...

I had not heard the news until I posted this message, as soon as I read the thread I felt like this chick: :Boobs

So I guess we will have to rename this smiley: :HeadBanger ? It was so constantly used with reference to Mahan's play that I liked to refer to it as the Mahan Smiley.

ikestops85
09-03-2008, 10:45 AM
Is it me or does everybody else also feel that BigBen thinks the Steeler braintrusts have been neglecting the O-line. :lol: :lol:

ikestops85
09-03-2008, 11:01 AM
This is great news!!! I am so happy about this move. From what I have heard the Bucs took all of his $ so it just keeps getting better. Who does the team intend to sign is the better question at this point? I would suspect that Stapleton is the backup in the middle, but the team has an open roster spot at this point.

LeCharles Bentley. Here is a guy that could give us quality depth at both center and guard. He has had 2 years to recover from his knee injury so it should be fully healed. I know ... he hasn't played for 2 years but that just means he doesn't have much mileage on him. Remember, here is a guy that was Pro Bowl caliber before the injury so why wouldn't he be again after he knocks the rust off? I think he would be a starter within the year.

If he will come in reasonable...I'm all for it.

Man the Bucs must have been desperate.

Bentley turned down a 1 year/1 million dollar offer from the lions. I'm sure he would accept what we paid, or should I say, overpaid Mahan.