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blacknblue80s
08-29-2008, 02:33 AM
He has missed several seemingly catchable balls, but how catchable were they really??

Sweed was looking like the player we expected, the sky was the limit... enter Byron Leftwich with his 150 MPH short passes. Can we really expect a rookie to catch those without a giant football sized catchers mitt??

My prediction is if given an oportunity with Ben, Sweed will become a real contributer at #3 or at the least #4 receiver.

Shawn
08-29-2008, 02:53 AM
Reid made it look easy last week. Lets just hope its rookie jitters.

blacknblue80s
08-29-2008, 03:08 AM
Reid made it look easy last week. Lets just hope its rookie jitters.
Reid has good hands when he's not fielding punts or kicks. :|

Byron had 6 completions out of 14 passes tonight, and based on what I've seen of him this preseason his passes are hard to hold on to.

SteelHoss
08-29-2008, 08:27 AM
I thought Byron showed a little more touch to his passes last night. Without the drops he would have had a very good night. I also liked Baker over Reid. Baker showed he can run after the catch which I really can't ever remember seeing Reid do. Reid's returns are still non existant. He dose'nt run with the urgency necessary to be successful. Keep Baker. Cut Reid.
It worried me a little when A Harrison went down, but then I was quicly reminded that Fox was on the field. He looks like a real good signing. :tt1 :tt1 :tt1 :tt1

Oviedo
08-29-2008, 09:29 AM
I'm not worried about Sweed. Leftwich is known for having a very hard to catch ball and being left handed if comes at a receiver differently. One of his issues in Jacksonville was that it was hard to catch his balls.

Reid is a better receiver than Baker. He needs to be the guy. As the #5 WR Reid can at least play on Special teams. I don't think I've seen Baker out there on Special Teams. Your #4 and #5 receivers have to be able to contribute in ST to justify the roster spots.

ikestops85
08-29-2008, 10:51 AM
I'm not worried about Sweed. Leftwich is known for having a very hard to catch ball and being left handed if comes at a receiver differently. One of his issues in Jacksonville was that it was hard to catch his balls.

Reid is a better receiver than Baker. He needs to be the guy. As the #5 WR Reid can at least play on Special teams. I don't think I've seen Baker out there on Special Teams. Your #4 and #5 receivers have to be able to contribute in ST to justify the roster spots.

Sorry but Lefty isn't a lefty. :D

blacknblue80s
08-29-2008, 10:54 AM
I thought Byron showed a little more touch to his passes last night. Without the drops he would have had a very good night. I also liked Baker over Reid. Baker showed he can run after the catch which I really can't ever remember seeing Reid do. Reid's returns are still non existant. He dose'nt run with the urgency necessary to be successful. Keep Baker. Cut Reid.
It worried me a little when A Harrison went down, but then I was quicly reminded that Fox was on the field. He looks like a real good signing. :tt1 :tt1 :tt1 :tt1
I didn't actually get to watch the game, but based on the speed of the little blackngold arrow on Game Center during Leftwich pass plays I can tell he was bringing the heat. :o

steelblood
08-29-2008, 06:29 PM
Don't make excuses for Sweed. Leftwich throws hard, but he doesn't throw knuckleballs. Even a #4 or #5 NFL receiver must make most of those catches. Dude isn't even catching 50% of catchable balls. Ridiculous.

NKySteeler
08-29-2008, 06:34 PM
I watched the replay this afternoon.... The pass Sweed dropped at the end of the first half was not thrown "hard" in any way. Sweed just dropped it plain and simple... Maybe he was "running before the catch" or something, but those mistakes cannot be made during the regular season when it counts...

Phazon Cannon
08-29-2008, 08:53 PM
I watched the replay this afternoon.... The pass Sweed dropped at the end of the first half was not thrown "hard" in any way. Sweed just dropped it plain and simple... Maybe he was "running before the catch" or something, but those mistakes cannot be made during the regular season when it counts...

He didn't have enough concentration on the ball and probably was more concerned about running or the incoming defender. I guess he is still trying to adjust to the speed of the game.

fordfixer
08-29-2008, 09:17 PM
I watched the replay this afternoon.... The pass Sweed dropped at the end of the first half was not thrown "hard" in any way. Sweed just dropped it plain and simple... Maybe he was "running before the catch" or something, but those mistakes cannot be made during the regular season when it counts...
The catch he made in the endzone was a nice catch if he just could have gotten his foot down before his butt :D

blacknblue80s
08-29-2008, 09:22 PM
Don't make excuses for Sweed. Leftwich throws hard, but he doesn't throw knuckleballs. Even a #4 or #5 NFL receiver must make most of those catches. Dude isn't even catching 50% of catchable balls. Ridiculous.

Not knuckle balls, FASTBALLS, but after seeing the highlights, both drops last night were very catchable.

As far as making excuses I don't need to... the guy is a rookie.

AkronSteel
08-29-2008, 10:14 PM
Don't make excuses for Sweed. Leftwich throws hard, but he doesn't throw knuckleballs. Even a #4 or #5 NFL receiver must make most of those catches. Dude isn't even catching 50% of catchable balls. Ridiculous.

Not knuckle balls, FASTBALLS, but after seeing the highlights, both drops last night were very catchable.

As far as making excuses I don't need to... the guy is a rookie.

I don't think excuses need to be made either. The guy is a professional football player and has been playing the game for over a decade now. Just catch the dang ball!! I think the pass at the end of the half was ridiculous, no player that was drafted that high should be dropping passes at the rate that he is. If he doesn't step up his play he will not be playing very much. If the guy wasn't the 2nd rd pick he would be cut.

blacknblue80s
08-30-2008, 12:59 PM
Don't make excuses for Sweed. Leftwich throws hard, but he doesn't throw knuckleballs. Even a #4 or #5 NFL receiver must make most of those catches. Dude isn't even catching 50% of catchable balls. Ridiculous.

Not knuckle balls, FASTBALLS, but after seeing the highlights, both drops last night were very catchable.

As far as making excuses I don't need to... the guy is a rookie.

I don't think excuses need to be made either. The guy is a professional football player and has been playing the game for over a decade now. Just catch the dang ball!! I think the pass at the end of the half was ridiculous, no player that was drafted that high should be dropping passes at the rate that he is. If he doesn't step up his play he will not be playing very much. If the guy wasn't the 2nd rd pick he would be cut.

IMO he was a second round pick based on his "body of work" and thus deserves a chance to show that it is rookie nerves or lingering wrist issues etc. :2c
Just my 20 cents. :P

proudpittsburgher
09-02-2008, 10:30 AM
Don't make excuses for Sweed. Leftwich throws hard, but he doesn't throw knuckleballs. Even a #4 or #5 NFL receiver must make most of those catches. Dude isn't even catching 50% of catchable balls. Ridiculous.

Not knuckle balls, FASTBALLS, but after seeing the highlights, both drops last night were very catchable.

As far as making excuses I don't need to... the guy is a rookie.

I don't think excuses need to be made either. The guy is a professional football player and has been playing the game for over a decade now. Just catch the dang ball!! I think the pass at the end of the half was ridiculous, no player that was drafted that high should be dropping passes at the rate that he is. If he doesn't step up his play he will not be playing very much. If the guy wasn't the 2nd rd pick he would be cut.

IMO he was a second round pick based on his "body of work" and thus deserves a chance to show that it is rookie nerves or lingering wrist issues etc. :2c
Just my 20 cents. :P
Me and a couple of buddies were having this conversation at the game on Thursday night. My point, and I hope I am wrong about this, is you can either catch the ball or not. I am worried that we wasted a second round pick on a guy who is never going to amount to anything in the NFL. You can teach Mendy to protect the ball, but how do you teach a receiver to catch better? I really like what i am seeing out of Mendenhaul, outside of his inability to hold on to the football, but Sweed makes me shake my head too many times during the game.

blacknblue80s
09-02-2008, 11:32 AM
Don't make excuses for Sweed. Leftwich throws hard, but he doesn't throw knuckleballs. Even a #4 or #5 NFL receiver must make most of those catches. Dude isn't even catching 50% of catchable balls. Ridiculous.

Not knuckle balls, FASTBALLS, but after seeing the highlights, both drops last night were very catchable.

As far as making excuses I don't need to... the guy is a rookie.

I don't think excuses need to be made either. The guy is a professional football player and has been playing the game for over a decade now. Just catch the dang ball!! I think the pass at the end of the half was ridiculous, no player that was drafted that high should be dropping passes at the rate that he is. If he doesn't step up his play he will not be playing very much. If the guy wasn't the 2nd rd pick he would be cut.

IMO he was a second round pick based on his "body of work" and thus deserves a chance to show that it is rookie nerves or lingering wrist issues etc. :2c
Just my 20 cents. :P
Me and a couple of buddies were having this conversation at the game on Thursday night. My point, and I hope I am wrong about this, is you can either catch the ball or not. I am worried that we wasted a second round pick on a guy who is never going to amount to anything in the NFL. You can teach Mendy to protect the ball, but how do you teach a receiver to catch better? I really like what i am seeing out of Mendenhaul, outside of his inability to hold on to the football, but Sweed makes me shake my head too many times during the game.

Against the Vikings the pass he missed looked like it was shot out of a rocket launcher,
but I'll admit after rewatching the Carolina game, he missed some perfectly thrown balls.

Maybe I am just trying to be optimistic here, but he appears to be looking at where he wants to go with the ball as opposed to just catching it. If so, that sort of thing is rookie related and should be correctable.

RuthlessBurgher
09-02-2008, 12:18 PM
The rookies are out there thinking instead of just playing. With his focus off of what is normally automatic for him, the actual act of catching the ball, drops happen. They say that WR is one of the hardest adjustments from the college game to the pro game. In time, this kid could be a good one. Luckily, we don't need him to start from day one. He can be the 4th WR that is only used in certain situations early in the season, such as in the red zone where his physical attributes are such a big advantage.

proudpittsburgher
09-02-2008, 02:13 PM
The rookies are out there thinking instead of just playing. With his focus off of what is normally automatic for him, the actual act of catching the ball, drops happen. They say that WR is one of the hardest adjustments from the college game to the pro game. In time, this kid could be a good one. Luckily, we don't need him to start from day one. He can be the 4th WR that is only used in certain situations early in the season, such as in the red zone where his physical attributes are such a big advantage.

Obviously, the kid knows how to catch the ball, we drafted him in the second round for cripes sakes, but there are plenty of rookie wide receivers out there who are catching everything thrown their way. Preseason, Regular season, you name it. Just look at Dwane Bowe and Marques Colsten. I know they are on the extreem, but considering this appears to be a head problem with him, I just worry that he will never get past that. I really hope I am wrong on this. With Mendy, I get frustrated because it's an easy fix (don't carry the damn ball like a loaf of bread). With Sweed, I worry that every drop compounds itself in his head. He has the ability, but we can't live with the dropsies.

AngryAsian
09-02-2008, 02:44 PM
I think we are worrying needlessly on this one. This guy will be a stud for the Black and Gold and his issues with dropping the ball will resolve itself. WR is one of the hardest positions to transition from the collegiate level to the pros.

Oviedo
09-02-2008, 03:19 PM
I bet Sweed's catch percentage increases significantly when he is catching balls thrown from Ben versus laser beams from Leftwich.

papillon
09-02-2008, 03:23 PM
I bet Sweed's catch percentage increases significantly when he is catching balls thrown from Ben versus laser beams from Leftwich.

Maybe, but, I don't believe he'll be in the game during crunch time any time soon. He'll have to earn his hypcycloids in mop up duty first , before they're going to put him on the field when it's important. I wish they hadn't cut Willie Reid right about now, Baker is in the same boat (inexperience).

Pappy

Oviedo
09-02-2008, 04:16 PM
I bet Sweed's catch percentage increases significantly when he is catching balls thrown from Ben versus laser beams from Leftwich.

Maybe, but, I don't believe he'll be in the game during crunch time any time soon. He'll have to earn his hypcycloids in mop up duty first , before they're going to put him on the field when it's important. I wish they hadn't cut Willie Reid right about now, Baker is in the same boat (inexperience).

Pappy

Reid would be very nice as a 4th quarter possession receiver right now. Not sure I would have the same faith in Sweed or Baker.

Steel Life
09-02-2008, 08:01 PM
I'll say what we're all know & are afraid to say - WRs are the biggest crapshoot in the draft. Sweed could be great, but he could end up like Chad Jackson...or Ashley Leslie...or Rogers...or Edwards...or...................................... .......... :shock:

But let's hope not!!! :tt2