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Oviedo
08-26-2008, 08:51 AM
Lots of debate on this and I can see both sides. The problem with shortening the preseason is you still need to evaluate young talent. Also the owners make money on those 4 preseason games. They aren't going to throw that away.

Here is a thought:

1. Expand rosters from 85 to 100.
2. Bring rookies and players with one year experience in one week to 10 days before veterans
3. When the vets come in require rosters to be reduced to 85
4. Reduce the number of preseason games to three and have the last one two weeks before the start of the season
5. Increase practice squad from 8 to 12 to continue to develop young players and have 6 of the 12 in a status that they can't be signed away.

I think this cratches a lot of itches. The young guys trying to earn a roster spot aren't the ones cpomnplaining about the length of camp. If anything they want more time to show what they can do. This proposal does that.

This would reduce camp by one week for veterans.

With the two weeks before the start of the regular season we might actually see an increase in trades as teams evaluate talent and look for missing pieces.

Ghost
08-26-2008, 09:10 AM
I think the veteran players complain way too much about the preseason. Itís not like they are playing a hug number of snaps. The starters went one series in the first game (at least the big stars). Maybe a few after that. Same with game number two. The third game they played a half. This last game is more of a joke than the first one and anyone whoís locked down a position wonít be out there for any amount of time at all. Three of the 4 games entail less hitting than a tough practice.

For teams that are really good and returning a ton of guys the preseason is vastly different than a team that was 3-13 last year. The Steelers probably had 45 to 47 of the 53 man roster filled out before camp started. Theyíre not using the preseason to determine that except in a few cases. Even 18 -20 out of 22 starters is set coming into camp Take teams such as the Rams, Dolphins, Falcons Ė they probably had 15 -20 spots filled, most positions open for a new starter, and absolutely need these games to determine what they have in terms of a team. Hopefully we donít see the Steelers in a position of needing all 4 preseason games to make such determinations any time soon.

I think we might see some issues if Brady and Manning donít take a single snap in the preseason and come in and light it up in the regular season. All of sudden youíre going to have a ton of veterans finding ways to get out of preseason b/c they donít think they need it. (Casey Hampton is a smaller scale version of this). The problem with this lies in that most players arenít Brady or manning.

Oviedo
08-26-2008, 09:38 AM
I think the veteran players complain way too much about the preseason. Itís not like they are playing a hug number of snaps. The starters went one series in the first game (at least the big stars). Maybe a few after that. Same with game number two. The third game they played a half. This last game is more of a joke than the first one and anyone whoís locked down a position wonít be out there for any amount of time at all. Three of the 4 games entail less hitting than a tough practice.

For teams that are really good and returning a ton of guys the preseason is vastly different than a team that was 3-13 last year. The Steelers probably had 45 to 47 of the 53 man roster filled out before camp started. Theyíre not using the preseason to determine that except in a few cases. Even 18 -20 out of 22 starters is set coming into camp Take teams such as the Rams, Dolphins, Falcons Ė they probably had 15 -20 spots filled, most positions open for a new starter, and absolutely need these games to determine what they have in terms of a team. Hopefully we donít see the Steelers in a position of needing all 4 preseason games to make such determinations any time soon.

I think we might see some issues if Brady and Manning donít take a single snap in the preseason and come in and light it up in the regular season. All of sudden youíre going to have a ton of veterans finding ways to get out of preseason b/c they donít think they need it. (Casey Hampton is a smaller scale version of this). The problem with this lies in that most players arenít Brady or manning.

The way he came to camp, Hampton isn't a smaller version of anything to include a Volkswagen Beetle :D

NKySteeler
08-26-2008, 04:54 PM
The comment that I heard last night on the Andrew Sicilliano Show (sp?) is that; "The league needs the pre-season games to ensure a quality product by the start of the regular season."... While I see this point, I also see alot of injuries to key NFL players around the league and alot of teams not playing thier starters.... And there has also been talk of the regular season being expanded to 17 games, which brings more importance to this issue.

O, I like your ideas....

The pre-season should be shortened to three weeks, IMO.

Ozey74
08-26-2008, 06:26 PM
The pre-season should be shortened to three weeks, IMO.


:Agree

I think the depth charts for most teams have been determined by this point. Teams are just waiting for the final cut day.