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fordfixer
08-19-2008, 11:35 PM
Posted: Monday August 18, 2008 12:25AM; Updated: Monday August 18, 2008 1:33PM
Peter King Peter King >
MONDAY MORNING QB
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/w ... ust/2.html (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/peter_king/08/17/august/2.html)

b. If I'm Mike Tomlin, I'm asking myself: Why can't Dennis Dixon be my No. 2 quarterback? At least until Charlie Batch comes back. That's no fifth-round-looking player. Dixon is poised and throws a zinger of a fastball.


Any thoughts?

Steel Life
08-19-2008, 11:44 PM
Posted: Monday August 18, 2008 12:25AM; Updated: Monday August 18, 2008 1:33PM
Peter King Peter King >
MONDAY MORNING QB
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/w ... ust/2.html (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/peter_king/08/17/august/2.html)

b. If I'm Mike Tomlin, I'm asking myself: Why can't Dennis Dixon be my No. 2 quarterback? At least until Charlie Batch comes back. That's no fifth-round-looking player. Dixon is poised and throws a zinger of a fastball.

Any thoughts?

I agree actually. Ben is pretty durable & with Dixon's arm & mobility, if he were to get into a game I think he can do enough to win games - why not, Ben did it. All they have to do is hold the fort until the 3rd game & Charlie would be back. Besides, doing it this way would allow them to keep another player instead of carrying 4 QBs for no reason. Or they simply release Batch to forgo the problem.

stlrz d
08-19-2008, 11:46 PM
I don't know how well he knows the offense yet, but from what I've seen of him physically I agree. He moves well, throws hard and has a pretty quick release.

fordfixer
08-19-2008, 11:50 PM
Posted: Monday August 18, 2008 12:25AM; Updated: Monday August 18, 2008 1:33PM
Peter King Peter King >
MONDAY MORNING QB
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/w ... ust/2.html (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/peter_king/08/17/august/2.html)

b. If I'm Mike Tomlin, I'm asking myself: Why can't Dennis Dixon be my No. 2 quarterback? At least until Charlie Batch comes back. That's no fifth-round-looking player. Dixon is poised and throws a zinger of a fastball.

Any thoughts?

I agree actually. Ben is pretty durable & with Dixon's arm & mobility, if he were to get into a game I think he can do enough to win games - why not, Ben did it. All they have to do is hold the fort until the 3rd game & Charlie would be back. Besides, doing it this way would allow them to keep another player instead of carrying 4 QBs for no reason. Or they simply release Batch to forgo the problem.
:Agree But we had a better run game and o-line then IMO

Steel Life
08-19-2008, 11:55 PM
Like I said, Batch could be ready by the 3rd game - so the risk is minimal. But then again, if the team feels Byron is the way they want to go, then they cut Charlie & the issue if off the table.

fordfixer
08-19-2008, 11:57 PM
Like I said, Batch could be ready by the 3rd game - so the risk is minimal. But then again, if the team feels Byron is the way they want to go, then they cut Charlie & the issue if off the table.

True

AngryAsian
08-20-2008, 12:13 AM
Byron Leftwich is a SCRUB. I would rather see Dixon as our number 2.

fordfixer
08-20-2008, 12:24 AM
Byron Leftwich is a SCRUB. I would rather see Dixon as our number 2.
Don't pull any punches AS tell us how you really feel :lol:

Steel Life
08-20-2008, 12:30 AM
Asian - Does your enthusiasm for Dixon also mean you want Batch gone too?

Jom112
08-20-2008, 02:22 AM
Asian - Does your enthusiasm for Dixon also mean you want Batch gone too?

I saw AS's response as more of a lack of faith for Leftwitch than as a promotion for Dixon...

SteelCrazy
08-20-2008, 03:17 AM
Peter King is an idiot. :Boobs

proudpittsburgher
08-20-2008, 06:24 AM
Dennis Dixon looked like a backup qb in the last preseasn game, he looked awful in the first game. I would feel more comfortable keeping leftwich and letting Batch go even though Charlie has been nothing but a good team guy and a capable backup. Dennis Dixon would be more of a threat in a slash type role with ben IN the game. Asking him to be the #2 guy at this point would make me very, very worried every time Ben takes a hit. What Dennis Dixon could become is a long way from what he is now.

frankthetank1
08-20-2008, 07:29 AM
What Dennis Dixon could become is a long way from what he is now.

i agree, i wouldnt want dixon as a #2 qb just yet. he has a long way to go and i hope more than anything he doesnt see any action this year, unless its a blow out. i dont like leftwich a whole lot but at least he has expierence

rpmpit
08-20-2008, 08:07 AM
This isn't baseball. EVERY game counts in the NFL. If (GOD FORBID) anything happened to Ben and he couldn't play in the first few weeks of the season (with Batch also out), we'd be in trouble if Dixon was our starter. I'm not crazy about Leftwhich either. But like some of you said, at least he has the experience. And with any luck, we won't need the #2 qb on the field at all this season

Ozey74
08-20-2008, 08:17 AM
Nice to know that Peter King is thinking about someone other than Brett Favre.

MeetJoeGreene
08-20-2008, 08:38 AM
Regardless of what we think or Peter King thinks, I don't think the STeelers feel the same way.

They are going to want a vet and number 2 -- whether it is Byron and then Batch or just Byron.

We will have to see how Byron looks this week with another week of practice under his belt. I orignally thought they would IR or cut Batch, but now it is a tossup in my mind.


The "Could" conceivably cut Byron before the season begins IF they are comfortable that Batch will be back by week 3 - and then save on Byron's salary.

Shawn
08-20-2008, 09:25 AM
Any thoughts?

Yea...just one.

Peter King is smoking crack.

I really like Dixon. I was doing flips when we drafted the guy. With that said, he is soooo not ready. So, Dixon plays against scrubs and vanilla Ds and gets anointed the next coming of Warren Moon? Come on. The guy will need at least one season before he will be a viable #2. Please don't make the mistake of rushing the kid. Look what happened to Couch.

AngryAsian
08-20-2008, 09:38 AM
Asian - Does your enthusiasm for Dixon also mean you want Batch gone too?

I saw AS's response as more of a lack of faith for Leftwitch than as a promotion for Dixon...


My stripe-loving-brother your insight is truly on point. Living near Jax, I've seen Leftwich in action often and he's horrible. If we have our tackle problems like last year and the pocket start collapsing on the periphery, then "slow-mow-wind-up Leftwich" will never get rid of the ball in time for any yardage to be gained. I don't even want to go into his inability to roll out of the pocket.... he might as well be in a wheelchair. Dixon gives us an option that Leftwich could never give us.... mobility. If you look at experience, the way I see it, Dixon has had more time with our playbook than Leftwich. Just my two yen.

proudpittsburgher
08-20-2008, 09:52 AM
Asian - Does your enthusiasm for Dixon also mean you want Batch gone too?

I saw AS's response as more of a lack of faith for Leftwitch than as a promotion for Dixon...


My stripe-loving-brother your insight is truly on point. Living near Jax, I've seen Leftwich in action often and he's horrible. If we have our tackle problems like last year and the pocket start collapsing on the periphery, then "slow-mow-wind-up Leftwich" will never get rid of the ball in time for any yardage to be gained. I don't even want to go into his inability to roll out of the pocket.... he might as well be in a wheelchair. Dixon gives us an option that Leftwich could never give us.... mobility. If you look at experience, the way I see it, Dixon has had more time with our playbook than Leftwich. Just my two yen.

Understand, my angry asian friend, but like medguy stated earlier, Dixon is just not even close to being ready. I'd rather have a seasoned quarterback like Leftwich, flaws and all, then a raw young quarterback whom defenses will be salivating over. Actually, I really would prefer this not become an issue, and Ben stays healthy, if I had my drothers. I just got my tickets for the Panthers preseason game in the mail for my annual pilgrimage to the Burgh, and knowing what I know now, I would prefer to see Ben in street clothes on the sideline to avoid any of this debate actually mattering. :Beer

AngryAsian
08-20-2008, 09:55 AM
Asian - Does your enthusiasm for Dixon also mean you want Batch gone too?

I saw AS's response as more of a lack of faith for Leftwitch than as a promotion for Dixon...


My stripe-loving-brother your insight is truly on point. Living near Jax, I've seen Leftwich in action often and he's horrible. If we have our tackle problems like last year and the pocket start collapsing on the periphery, then "slow-mow-wind-up Leftwich" will never get rid of the ball in time for any yardage to be gained. I don't even want to go into his inability to roll out of the pocket.... he might as well be in a wheelchair. Dixon gives us an option that Leftwich could never give us.... mobility. If you look at experience, the way I see it, Dixon has had more time with our playbook than Leftwich. Just my two yen.

Understand, my angry asian friend, but like medguy stated earlier, Dixon is just not even close to being ready. I'd rather have a seasoned quarterback like Leftwich, flaws and all, then a raw young quarterback whom defenses will be salivating over. Actually, I really would prefer this not become an issue, and Ben stays healthy, if I had my drothers. I just got my tickets for the Panthers preseason game in the mail for my annual pilgrimage to the Burgh, and knowing what I know now, I would prefer to see Ben in street clothes on the sideline to avoid any of this debate actually mattering. :Beer


Word, brother.... word.

RuthlessBurgher
08-20-2008, 10:24 AM
Any thoughts?

Yea...just one.

Peter King is smoking crack.

From the next edition of Monday Morning Quarterback:

Cracknerdness: In a back alley behind Seattle-Tacoma International Airport, I met a guy named Three Legged Marvin, who introduced me to an excellent freebase blend. The folks in the Pacific Northwest know about more than just great coffee...their crack is top notch as well! Of course, it still doesn't stack up to the snowballing I did when I went to visit my daughter at Colgate. Nobody understands the perfect mix of cocaine and heroin like the folks in the Finger Lakes region of New York.

Ozey74
08-20-2008, 10:33 AM
Any thoughts?

Yea...just one.

Peter King is smoking crack.

From the next edition of Monday Morning Quarterback:

Cracknerdness: In a back alley behind Seattle-Tacoma International Airport, I met a guy named Three Legged Marvin, who introduced me to an excellent freebase blend. The folks in the Pacific Northwest know about more than just great coffee...their crack is top notch as well! Of course, it still doesn't stack up to the snowballing I did when I went to visit my daughter at Colgate. Nobody understands the perfect mix of cocaine and heroin like the folks in the Finger Lakes region of New York.

:Clap


Very Impressive!!

Shawn
08-20-2008, 10:38 AM
Any thoughts?

Yea...just one.

Peter King is smoking crack.

From the next edition of Monday Morning Quarterback:

Cracknerdness: In a back alley behind Seattle-Tacoma International Airport, I met a guy named Three Legged Marvin, who introduced me to an excellent freebase blend. The folks in the Pacific Northwest know about more than just great coffee...their crack is top notch as well! Of course, it still doesn't stack up to the snowballing I did when I went to visit my daughter at Colgate. Nobody understands the perfect mix of cocaine and heroin like the folks in the Finger Lakes region of New York.

:lol: Nice very nice.

Hey...for a guy who hasn't touched anything stronger than tylenol you sure have a healthy knowledge of street drugs.

:mrgreen:

RuthlessBurgher
08-20-2008, 10:42 AM
Any thoughts?

Yea...just one.

Peter King is smoking crack.

From the next edition of Monday Morning Quarterback:

Cracknerdness: In a back alley behind Seattle-Tacoma International Airport, I met a guy named Three Legged Marvin, who introduced me to an excellent freebase blend. The folks in the Pacific Northwest know about more than just great coffee...their crack is top notch as well! Of course, it still doesn't stack up to the snowballing I did when I went to visit my daughter at Colgate. Nobody understands the perfect mix of cocaine and heroin like the folks in the Finger Lakes region of New York.

:lol: Nice very nice.

Hey...for a guy who hasn't touched anything stronger than tylenol you sure have a healthy knowledge of street drugs.

:mrgreen:

Wikipedia rules, my man.

stlrz d
08-20-2008, 02:02 PM
I remember a time when his own teammates didn't think Ben was ready.

Steel Life
08-20-2008, 10:11 PM
The point is that nobody is asking Dixon to start - only to back-up until Batch is ready, which would be after the 2nd game. The chances of Byron losing a game is the same as it would be for Dixon...50-50. Both would have showcase a steady run-game & a emphasis on not turning the ball over, so what does it matter?

I would hate for them to carry 4 QBs, to me the extra roster spot is more important. Either make a decision & choose either Batch or Byron, or wait for Charlie & give the kid more reps.