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papillon
08-18-2008, 11:54 AM
I hate to admit that I agree with Mark Madden, but, this article hits it on the head as far as I'm concerned. Although, I don't agree that Ben is as close to being in the same caliber as Tom Brady (not yet anyhow) as Madden puts him.

http://www.timesonline.com/articles/2008/08/17/sports/other/doc48a8f64607cc6273384928.txt

Enjoy

Pappy

fordfixer
08-18-2008, 12:07 PM
I hate to admit that I agree with Mark Madden, but, this article hits it on the head as far as I'm concerned. Although, I don't agree that Ben is as close to being in the same caliber as Tom Brady (not yet anyhow) as Madden puts him.

http://www.timesonline.com/articles/2008/08/17/sports/other/doc48a8f64607cc6273384928.txt

Enjoy

Pappy
:Agree Nice read thanks Pappy

SanAntonioSteelerFan
08-18-2008, 03:22 PM
A little too negative IMO. There is a lot of good stuff going on as well. Time will tell which will set the tone for the season, but at this point I think a more balanced approach is the more reasonable one.

Steely76
08-18-2008, 03:46 PM
I hate to admit that I agree with Mark Madden, but, this article hits it on the head as far as I'm concerned. Although, I don't agree that Ben is as close to being in the same caliber as Tom Brady (not yet anyhow) as Madden puts him.

http://www.timesonline.com/articles/2008/08/17/sports/other/doc48a8f64607cc6273384928.txt

Enjoy

Pappy

Well I don't know, Brady does seem to get more time to stand in the pocket than most QBs do. He didn't get that in the Super Bowl and look what happened.

proudpittsburgher
08-18-2008, 05:55 PM
A little too negative IMO. There is a lot of good stuff going on as well. Time will tell which will set the tone for the season, but at this point I think a more balanced approach is the more reasonable one.


I have to fall in the same boat as pappy, and I feel the need to take a shower after agreeing with Mark Madden. I really hated when people criticize one of the best quarterbacks statistically last season saying he was one of the reasons for the sacks, in that he didn't get rid of the ball quick enough. Seriously, Ben made our offense by holding on to the ball too long. True, he took some sacks, but he also made some really big plays. Much of the criticism came by saying Ben never checked down to his third and fourth reads, but just when did he ever have the time to get that far through his progressions? If the offensive line is not fixed, and I think the overwhelming sentiment is that it is not so far for this season, then they need to work the running back out of the backfield more often to get teams to stop putting pressure on. I don't care if you come in free, if parker/mendenhall/whoever runs a five yard out, we will beat the rush mroe often than not.