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NKySteeler
07-12-2008, 05:22 PM
This is from James Walkers' article, Contract Years in The AFC North....

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/hashmarks/0- ... North.html (http://myespn.go.com/blogs/hashmarks/0-8-131/Contract-years-in-AFC-North.html)



4. Marvel Smith, LT, Pittsburgh Steelers

The Steelers have a way of not giving contract extensions to players 30 years or older (see Alan Faneca). Unfortunately for Marvel Smith, he turns 30 next month, and thus the Steelers have been very quiet on the contract front. Considering that Smith plays left tackle, a good season could garner an extension. But that would go against a serious Steelers staple.

Chances of Smith playing for Pittsburgh in 2009: 40 percent.

BigLebowski
07-12-2008, 05:24 PM
Nky,
My heart almost stopped, I thought he got hurt or something. :evil:


.... Out of curiousity, with your post total-- are you posting while you fly????? :D

NKySteeler
07-12-2008, 05:29 PM
Nky,
My heart almost stopped, I thought he got hurt or something. :evil:


.... Out of curiousity, with your post total-- are you posting while you fly????? :D

Shhhhh.......... !!!!.......... :lol:
Eh, excuse me for a minute......

"Yes Trixie, I'll have the chicken tonight if there is any left over in 1st class..."........ OK, I'm back..... :lol:

Seriously, No.... I just have no life and too much time off... :wink:

BigLebowski
07-12-2008, 06:06 PM
Nky,
My heart almost stopped, I thought he got hurt or something. :evil:


.... Out of curiousity, with your post total-- are you posting while you fly????? :D

Shhhhh.......... !!!!.......... :lol:
Eh, excuse me for a minute......

"Yes Trixie, I'll have the chicken tonight if there is any left over in 1st class..."........ OK, I'm back..... :lol:

Seriously, No.... I just have no life and too much time off... :wink:

I figured as much, I just noticed your total is all.

PS...There is no such thing as too much time off.


On the topic at hand. I don't expect Marvel back either. I don't think the FO wants to take a risk on guaranteed money until they see if he is indeed healthy. And since they don't negotiate during the season, that would have to be after this year. And if he returns to his healthy self, he will be too expensive on the open market, And if he sucks we won't want him back anyways. So I agree this is most likely Marvel's last year in the Black and Gold.

NKySteeler
07-12-2008, 06:14 PM
I don't think the FO wants to take a risk on guaranteed money until they see if he is indeed healthy. And since they don't negotiate during the season, that would have to be after this year. And if he returns to his healthy self, he will be too expensive on the open market, And if he sucks we won't want him back anyways. So I agree this is most likely Marvel's last year in the Black and Gold.

Agreed... I'm really not sold on the guy, but who else do we really have at this point in time? When he's healthy, he plays at a decent level, but when he's not healthy, well....

Personally, the O-line is the single area that seriously concerns me. Not only for this coming season, but the near future as well. ... We really need to start NOW to regain the dominant O-line for the future.

SteelerNation1
07-12-2008, 06:43 PM
On the topic at hand. I don't expect Marvel back either. I don't think the FO wants to take a risk on guaranteed money until they see if he is indeed healthy. And since they don't negotiate during the season, that would have to be after this year. And if he returns to his healthy self, he will be too expensive on the open market, And if he sucks we won't want him back anyways. So I agree this is most likely Marvel's last year in the Black and Gold.
Respectfully disagree. I think he reports to camp in great shape, proves he can still play at a high level, and gets an extension in early Sept before the season starts. :2c

BIG FAN
07-12-2008, 06:45 PM
I don't think the FO wants to take a risk on guaranteed money until they see if he is indeed healthy. And since they don't negotiate during the season, that would have to be after this year. And if he returns to his healthy self, he will be too expensive on the open market, And if he sucks we won't want him back anyways. So I agree this is most likely Marvel's last year in the Black and Gold.

Agreed... I'm really not sold on the guy, but who else do we really have at this point in time? When he's healthy, he plays at a decent level, but when he's not healthy, well....

Personally, the O-line is the single area that seriously concerns me. Not only for this coming season, but the near future as well. ... We really need to start NOW to regain the dominant O-line for the future.

We really should have adressed this o-line issue last year.
We really should have adressed this o-line issue this year.
Now we have to adress both sides of the line for the next two years.

birtikidis
07-12-2008, 06:51 PM
I'm starting to get concerned with all these contracts being in their last year what We're planning to do! WTF I NEED TO KNOW!

SteelerNation1
07-12-2008, 06:51 PM
If we lose Starks, Essex and Smith to FA we could be in some trouble. I still think one or two may be resigned before 2008 starts

birtikidis
07-12-2008, 06:56 PM
We need to sign at least one of them before the season starts. Are there any prospects for next years draft?

blacknblue80s
07-12-2008, 09:07 PM
Lets hope Tony Hills is the answer.

BIG FAN
07-12-2008, 10:22 PM
Lets hope Tony Hills is the answer.

From your mouth to God's ear.

buckeyehoppy
07-13-2008, 12:25 AM
I had Hills in high regard early on in the draft cycle. The injury concerns and poor testing happens, but usually at the expense of draft status. If he is fully healthy, I think Hills will be even more of a steal than Sweed or Mendy.

Smith is at that borderline where the Steelers typically just let players of his age walk. If he has a good camp, I would expect that he would get an extension prior to the start of the season.

So many players on the Steelers have looming contract issues that is appears to be a cause for alarm. I think signing Smith would be a leap of faith, but may be necessary to keep some form of continuity on the roster.

Based on the past track record of the Steelers FO, that 40% is no surprise. But since the Steelers haven't been as active in drafting help in the trenches, it becomes more necessary to toss a little more at established commodities. Smith being a proven commodity at T, the Steelers may not chafe quite as hard at his looming contract bid as they did at Faneca who has spent most of his career at G. Fair or not, Ts typically get better love in contract dealings than Gs.

LasVegasGuy
07-13-2008, 12:03 PM
On the topic at hand. I don't expect Marvel back either. I don't think the FO wants to take a risk on guaranteed money until they see if he is indeed healthy. And since they don't negotiate during the season, that would have to be after this year. And if he returns to his healthy self, he will be too expensive on the open market, And if he sucks we won't want him back anyways. So I agree this is most likely Marvel's last year in the Black and Gold.


Depends on who the owner is. You may see a seriuosly change in the "Rooney Way" if some billionaire grabs control of the team. Right now Drunkenmiller is saying all the right things to get control but alot may change once he signs on the dotted line.

Shawn
07-13-2008, 12:06 PM
I give Marvel about a 0% chance of being re-signed.

BigLebowski
07-13-2008, 02:09 PM
I give Marvel about a 0% chance of being re-signed.

I agree with you. Although, I would like them to resign him. I feel that when Smith is right, Big Ben would not trade him for anyone.

RuthlessBurgher
07-13-2008, 04:19 PM
We need to sign at least one of them before the season starts. Are there any prospects for next years draft?

I'd say at least a half dozen OT's go in the first round (Michael Oher, Andre Smith, Ciron Black, Max Unger, Phil Loadholt, and Alex Boone), plus you have some interior linemen like guards Duke Robinson and Jeremy Perry and center Alex Mack that will merit first day considersation as well.

Here is Walter Cherepinsky's 2009 OT preview: http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2009OT.php

Here is a rundown of some of the top o-line prospect in '09 from fftoolbox: http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/2009/top-nfl-prospects-for-2009.cfm?pos=OL

blacknblue80s
07-14-2008, 12:58 AM
I give Marvel about a 0% chance of being re-signed.

I agree with you. Although, I would like them to resign him. I feel that when Smith is right, Big Ben would not trade him for anyone.
The problem with Marvel is that he has only been able to stay healthy every other year since 2002.
http://fantasynews.sportsline.com/fanta ... age/187650 (http://fantasynews.sportsline.com/fantasyfootball/players/playerpage/187650)

After this year he is due to miss at least 4 games in 2009 and be hampered by what ever ailment when he actually does play.

MeetJoeGreene
07-14-2008, 11:45 AM
I am not worried about Marvell's motivation this year -- being a contract year and all. He will show up in shape and play well. The big IF being -- if his back is better.

If his back is toast and he wears out, the Starks signing will seem brilliant.

If he plays well the entire year - then we get a good year out of him. My belief is he will either walk or we will transition him for the following year.

So, we may have zero, 1, or 2 good years out of Smith.

SteelerOfDeVille
07-14-2008, 12:19 PM
I give Marvel about a 0% chance of being re-signed.
ditto... but, we already knew that... and that's why some of us wanted a whole gang of offensive linemen drafted... early and often.

Tony Hills better prove to be a steal or we'll be stuck over-paying in free agency next year. Or trying to find a way to get an o-lineman early in this next draft... to go along with the LB we'll need to replace Farrior.