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Mr Smartmonies
07-03-2008, 02:51 PM
I don't know if I will write separate books or just one book with a bunch of chapters.

Things that i will write about include but are not limited too:

1) Serving a life Sentence with BOB Nutting - my experience of growing up a pirate fan and having the Nutting family consistently beat me over the head with lousy teams to the point I have nothing left for the Pirates but hostility. My only benefit is that you would be up about 85,000 dollars if you had bet 1000 against the Pirates every game since 2000. (Odds included on every game)

2) Ben Roethlisberger and the magical 2004 season that should go down as one of the great all time accomplishments for a Professional Athelete (not just a rookie) I will detail how the Media (even in Pittsburgh) just failed to catch on to it for the longest time. I will rip the media to shreds , and then hope they call me so that they have a chance to defend themselves.

3) I could also write about sports betting. A tell all book on every thing the sportsbooks don't want you to know. that should be a great read. I could even outline how to spot a 'fixed game." Imagine that on the cover. "HOW TO SPOT FIXED GAMES." :)

4) I could also write statistical looks at the greates teams of all time. I could write about how to tell by midseason if your team is a legit championship contender or pretender.

5) I could write about hockey. I could give a detailed analysis of why i choose Detroit to win cup and how i new the Pens had only 5% chance to win it all. I could right about my canadien friend who won over 80K betting my hockey picks in 2 years.

give me more ideas. Keep them real. I need the help. What would make you grab my book?

MeetJoeGreene
07-03-2008, 02:58 PM
I4) I could also write statistical looks at the greates teams of all time. I could write about how to tell by midseason if your team is a legit championship contender or pretender.
I think that idea has the best chance of attracting people outside of Pittsburgh. Depending on how approachable you can make some of the finer points, it could sell to wider audience of casual sports fans as opposed to merely the hard core.
5. What would make you grab my book?
:Boobs on the cover. Sorry NC Steeler Fan. I couldn't resist. That is my last time using that avatar. I promise. 8)

Mr Smartmonies
07-03-2008, 03:16 PM
Thanks mean Joe

I will consider the boobs.

RuthlessBurgher
07-03-2008, 03:20 PM
The Boston Globe came up with the idea for this book, but never released it.

MSM could make it a work of Shakespearean tragicomedy.

http://domnit.org/misc/patriots-19-0-cover.jpg

Jom112
07-03-2008, 03:50 PM
3) I could also write about sports betting. A tell all book on every thing the sportsbooks don't want you to know. that should be a great read. I could even outline how to spot a 'fixed game." Imagine that on the cover. "HOW TO SPOT FIXED GAMES." :)


You have plenty of examples of that being a Steelers fan... :stirpot :stirpot :stirpot






j/k, put the pitch forks down...

Mr Smartmonies
07-03-2008, 04:11 PM
The Boston Globe came up with the idea for this book, but never released it.

MSM could make it a work of Shakespearean tragicomedy.

http://domnit.org/misc/patriots-19-0-cover.jpg

Great idea.

Ernie ADAMS , the Untold spygate story! :Beer

Shawn
07-03-2008, 04:13 PM
I suggest this title

SMG
The Man, the Myth, the Legend.

But, hey that's just me. :D

Mr Smartmonies
07-03-2008, 04:19 PM
Title: My name is Dutch, but some people call me smartmonies. :)

Iron Shiek
07-03-2008, 04:36 PM
Well seeing as we are all still waiting breathlessly for your Top 10 fixed games of all time thread that you teased for a week (its now been 3 months i think), I don't expect a book any time soon. :D (my apologies if I've missed that thread). Hmm, maybe you were saving it for the book. That would be an interesting read though, how to spot them, then outline your top ten using your theory. Intriguing...

A statistical book isn't going to sell anything (most likely). Stay away from that topic. Big Ben would be a hot seller, at least in Penn. area. And i laughed out loud at your "rip the media to shreds so they call me" comment.

:2c

DBinAL
07-03-2008, 04:43 PM
I think you need to invest in Spell Check and a grammar book before you attempt to write anything. Your spelling is terrible and your grammar isn't much better.

Iron Shiek
07-03-2008, 04:45 PM
I think you need to invest in Spell Check and a grammar book before you attempt to write anything. Your spelling is terrible and your grammar isn't much better.

Yeah MSM, I'd gladly be your editor if you pay me in unlimited lifetime supply of betting tips at my command. 8)

Mr Smartmonies
07-03-2008, 04:49 PM
I think you need to invest in Spell Check and a grammar book before you attempt to write anything. Your spelling is terrible and your grammar isn't much better.

I type fast. My grammer sucks. But we can work on that. I have a lot of info to share.
I'm going to need the ignore button. DBinal is all negative all the time towards me.
Do we have the ignore feature here?

Mr Smartmonies
07-03-2008, 04:52 PM
I think you need to invest in Spell Check and a grammar book before you attempt to write anything. Your spelling is terrible and your grammar isn't much better.

Yeah MSM, I'd gladly be your editor if you pay me in unlimited lifetime supply of betting tips at my command. 8)

Betting tips 101

1) Work very hard. I put in 120 hours a week to just maintain a 55-57 percent win percentage.

2) If it looks to good to be true, go the other way.

3) Understand that the oddsmakers know more than you. Once you understand this, only then can the winning begin.

That's the basic simplified version. :)

Iron Shiek
07-03-2008, 04:54 PM
[quote=DBinAL]I think you need to invest in Spell Check and a grammar book before you attempt to write anything. Your spelling is terrible and your grammar isn't much better.

Yeah MSM, I'd gladly be your editor if you pay me in unlimited lifetime supply of betting tips at my command. 8)

Betting tips 101

1) Work very hard. I put in 120 hours a week to just maintain a 55-57 percent win percentage.

2) If it looks to good to be true, go the other way.

3) Understand that the oddsmakers know more than you. Once you understand this, only then can the winning begin.

That's the basic simplified version. :)[/quote:36faedjv]

Well I was thinking more along the lines of just being a 24 hour service for advice. Like when I go to Vegas in a couple of weeks and I'm feeling frisky, I just blow up the bat phone and WHAM! Betting info on the spot. Ha.

Mr Smartmonies
07-03-2008, 05:03 PM
[quote="Iron Shiek":2mr0hexf][quote=DBinAL]I think you need to invest in Spell Check and a grammar book before you attempt to write anything. Your spelling is terrible and your grammar isn't much better.

Yeah MSM, I'd gladly be your editor if you pay me in unlimited lifetime supply of betting tips at my command. 8)

Betting tips 101

1) Work very hard. I put in 120 hours a week to just maintain a 55-57 percent win percentage.

2) If it looks to good to be true, go the other way.

3) Understand that the oddsmakers know more than you. Once you understand this, only then can the winning begin.

That's the basic simplified version. :)[/quote:2mr0hexf]

Well I was thinking more along the lines of just being a 24 hour service for advice. Like when I go to Vegas in a couple of weeks and I'm feeling frisky, I just blow up the bat phone and WHAM! Betting info on the spot. Ha.[/quote:2mr0hexf]

go against all of that free advice on that phone!

Better yet, call up a good friend and ask him for his top picks each day. Make sure its a friend who really thinks he knows sports but not one that bets on them. Once you get your three picks , bet against all 3. Do that for an entire season. Bet 3-4 % of bankroll on each pick.

DBinAL
07-03-2008, 05:22 PM
I think you need to invest in Spell Check and a grammar book before you attempt to write anything. Your spelling is terrible and your grammar isn't much better.

I type fast. My grammer sucks. But we can work on that. I have a lot of info to share.
I'm going to need the ignore button. DBinal is all negative all the time towards me.
Do we have the ignore feature here?

MSM - First of all it's 'grammar.'

It's not negative if it's the truth. You just can't handle the truth.

RuthlessBurgher
07-03-2008, 05:44 PM
I think you need to invest in Spell Check and a grammar book before you attempt to write anything. Your spelling is terrible and your grammar isn't much better.

I type fast. My grammer sucks. But we can work on that. I have a lot of info to share.
I'm going to need the ignore button. DBinal is all negative all the time towards me.
Do we have the ignore feature here?

MSM - First of all it's 'grammar.'

It's not negative if it's the truth. You just can't handle the truth.

http://content.ytmnd.com/content/d/6/b/d6bae60274e97deb70555b7cf384ca43.jpg

You simply cannot make such a comment without a picture of Jack. 8)

Flasteel
07-03-2008, 06:18 PM
:shock:














:shock:

Shawn
07-03-2008, 07:29 PM
Y'all crack me up. :lol:

Mr Smartmonies
07-03-2008, 08:23 PM
I think you need to invest in Spell Check and a grammar book before you attempt to write anything. Your spelling is terrible and your grammar isn't much better.

I type fast. My grammer sucks. But we can work on that. I have a lot of info to share.
I'm going to need the ignore button. DBinal is all negative all the time towards me.
Do we have the ignore feature here?

MSM - First of all it's 'grammar.'

It's not negative if it's the truth. You just can't handle the truth.

I'm a math guy.

papillon
07-03-2008, 09:04 PM
[quote=DBinAL]I think you need to invest in Spell Check and a grammar book before you attempt to write anything. Your spelling is terrible and your grammar isn't much better.

I type fast. My grammer sucks. But we can work on that. I have a lot of info to share.
I'm going to need the ignore button. DBinal is all negative all the time towards me.
Do we have the ignore feature here?

MSM - First of all it's 'grammar.'

It's not negative if it's the truth. You just can't handle the truth.

I'm a math guy.[/quote:3xc75nbi]

Wouldn't it be better to be a spelling and grammar guy if you're going to write a book? I guess being able to number the pages correctly is required, but, the actual writing may need spelling and grammar.

Pappy

Mr Smartmonies
07-03-2008, 09:10 PM
[quote=DBinAL]I think you need to invest in Spell Check and a grammar book before you attempt to write anything. Your spelling is terrible and your grammar isn't much better.

I type fast. My grammer sucks. But we can work on that. I have a lot of info to share.
I'm going to need the ignore button. DBinal is all negative all the time towards me.
Do we have the ignore feature here?

MSM - First of all it's 'grammar.'

It's not negative if it's the truth. You just can't handle the truth.

I'm a math guy.

Wouldn't it be better to be a spelling and grammar guy if you're going to write a book? I guess being able to number the pages correctly is required, but, the actual writing may need spelling and grammar.

Pappy[/quote:rwtkm9nx]

The information makes the book. I can have anyone edit it and make it perfectly readable. I can spell. I just can't type. Its all about the information.

Shawn
07-03-2008, 10:57 PM
LOL...MSM I think they are just giving you a hard time. :)

papillon
07-04-2008, 12:29 AM
LOL...MSM I think they are just giving you a hard time. :)

Ya think? :Beer

Pappy

Shawn
07-04-2008, 01:34 AM
LOL...MSM I think they are just giving you a hard time. :)

Ya think? :Beer

Pappy

Enjoying yourself? :lol:

It's kind of like the ish I give steelers43...I just can't help myself. :D

Flasteel
07-04-2008, 02:21 AM
:shock:
















:shock:

birtikidis
07-04-2008, 12:32 PM
hey since most of us are ex jocks, make sure your book has plenty of photo's, pop up pictures and mazes!

SeaOracle
07-04-2008, 01:37 PM
As the author of one of the great threads of all time on the other board (around 25,000 views before they locked it) I can tell you a thing or two. When it got boring, no one paid attention. Controversy is what brought in the fans. As others have pointed out, the nuts and bolts don't sell very well. To really make any money it's gotta have some obvious take-aways like sensational material, great photos, or a compelling storyline. You also have to have a lot of publicity. Could you get Ben to co-author with you? Maybe you could link it to Princess Diana. Sorry, just brainstorming publicity ideas. Oh, and here's my favorite, you could include a poetry contest.

8)

SO

Shawn
07-04-2008, 03:37 PM
I don't know how legal it is...but implicating refs in gambling scandels (with evidence) would sell books.

SeaOracle
07-04-2008, 04:42 PM
I don't know how legal it is...but implicating refs in gambling scandels (with evidence) would sell books.

Hey, who needs evidence? Salacious rumors are GREAT for selling books.

SO

steelblood
07-04-2008, 05:03 PM
I don't know if I will write separate books or just one book with a bunch of chapters.

Things that i will write about include but are not limited too:

1) Serving a life Sentence with BOB Nutting - my experience of growing up a pirate fan and having the Nutting family consistently beat me over the head with lousy teams to the point I have nothing left for the Pirates but hostility. My only benefit is that you would be up about 85,000 dollars if you had bet 1000 against the Pirates every game since 2000. (Odds included on every game)

2) Ben Roethlisberger and the magical 2004 season that should go down as one of the great all time accomplishments for a Professional Athelete (not just a rookie) I will detail how the Media (even in Pittsburgh) just failed to catch on to it for the longest time. I will rip the media to shreds , and then hope they call me so that they have a chance to defend themselves.

3) I could also write about sports betting. A tell all book on every thing the sportsbooks don't want you to know. that should be a great read. I could even outline how to spot a 'fixed game." Imagine that on the cover. "HOW TO SPOT FIXED GAMES." :)

4) I could also write statistical looks at the greates teams of all time. I could write about how to tell by midseason if your team is a legit championship contender or pretender.

5) I could write about hockey. I could give a detailed analysis of why i choose Detroit to win cup and how i new the Pens had only 5% chance to win it all. I could right about my canadien friend who won over 80K betting my hockey picks in 2 years.

give me more ideas. Keep them real. I need the help. What would make you grab my book?

MSM,

I am an editor. I've never done sports books, but I can help you a little with what piques a publishers interest.

Below find my comments on your ideas...

Idea 1. I don't think this is a great pitch. Angry fan speaks out against terrible owner. Why do we want to read about you being miserable? Either 1. we were miserable too and don't like thinking about it, or 2. it sounds excruciating.

Idea 2. I like this as a part of a larger book about Pittsburgh Sports. I'm not sure it stands on its own, but it is a decent topic for Steeler's fans. Your axe to grind with the media could be annoying or totally fetching depending on how you flesh that idea out. I would definitely explore that facet and find the most entertaining approach.

Idea 3. I really like this idea as a stand alone book. I think you need to think carefully about your audience. Is it sports wagerers, big time sports fans who wager occassionally, or everybody including casual fans? This will be an important decision before you can even plan such a book and will be crucial to its marketing and sales successes.

Idea 4. I like this as a chapter in the sports betting book. Perhaps a technique for the advanced gambler?

Idea 5. Most experts saw Detroit as clear favorite so I'm not sure this is a great selling point for a book. But, I am greatly intrigued by your advice to your friend about betting on hockey and his success. If you could encapsulate these strategies and tell them in a narrative format (like recounting your phone conversations with your buddy) it could fit nicely into your sports wagering book and be entertaining.

PM me if you want to talk.

steelblood

Shawn
07-04-2008, 05:22 PM
I don't know how legal it is...but implicating refs in gambling scandels (with evidence) would sell books.

Hey, who needs evidence? Salacious rumors are GREAT for selling books.

SO

Now thats what I'm talking about...could he do it steelblood? Could he bring up questionable activity and odd games in an attempt to say games have been rigged? And would that sell?

Shawn
07-04-2008, 05:25 PM
PS: I have been considering writing a book...

How to Pimp (SMG's step by step guide to get dos hoes to show you the doe)

I really think it's a winner. :D

papillon
07-04-2008, 10:59 PM
LOL...MSM I think they are just giving you a hard time. :)

Ya think? :Beer

Pappy

Enjoying yourself? :lol:

It's kind of like the ish I give steelers43...I just can't help myself. :D

No, I just believe if you're going to write a book that writing it in a fashion that is conducive to someone being able to read the book goes a long way to making the book the successful. But, hey, that's just me, I'm funny that way when I read a book. Mr Smartmonies knows I'm just yankin his chain a bit, it's all good. :P

Pappy

RuthlessBurgher
07-05-2008, 11:19 AM
PS: I have been considering writing a book...

How to Pimp (SMG's step by step guide to get dos hoes to show you the doe)

I really think it's a winner. :D

http://b9.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01424/90/62/1424402609_s.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p63/iconoclastic_tendencies/TheBernsteinBearsLearnToPimpChildre.jpg

http://www.schmeg.com/FUNNY-BOOKS/horton-hires-a-ho.jpg

http://carcino.gen.nz/images/image.phpi/56f85155/pimpin.jpg

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/auminer/SMACKAHO.png

Shawn
07-05-2008, 12:56 PM
:lol:

Good stuff Ruthless...I know you feel me. :)

Mr Smartmonies
07-05-2008, 01:08 PM
Thanks for allthe help.

steelblood
07-05-2008, 07:29 PM
I don't know how legal it is...but implicating refs in gambling scandels (with evidence) would sell books.

Hey, who needs evidence? Salacious rumors are GREAT for selling books.

SO

Now thats what I'm talking about...could he do it steelblood? Could he bring up questionable activity and odd games in an attempt to say games have been rigged? And would that sell?


He certainly could. Of course, many publishers would probably be a bit leary about anything that may lead to litigation. But, if it sells books and he is only talking about trends and possibilities, someone might greenlight it. Before MSM even goes to a publisher though, he should see an attorney to make sure his work is protected (copyrights, etc.) and to talk about any possible litigation that may result from his book. Don't trust a publishing house's attorneys. They only care about their client.