View Full Version : Tiger Woods Done For Year... Anyone Care?

06-19-2008, 02:29 PM
Personally, I do watch the major events (Masters, US and Brittish Open, etc...) but am not necessarily a Tiger fan (I'll take the lefty, Mickelson)... Does anyone care that he is gone for the year? Is the sport in trouble "ratings-wise" without him?
June 19, 2008
Woods to miss the rest of the year with knee surgery
AP Golf Writer

Tiger Woods' career has been defined as much by spectacular shots as mind-boggling numbers.

In just a dozen years on the PGA Tour, he already has won 65 times to rank third on the all-time list behind Sam Snead and Jack Nicklaus. Woods has won 14 majors, closing on the record 18 won by Nicklaus and joining the Golden Bear as the only players to win the career Grand Slam three times over. He is 44-3 on tour when he has at least a share of the 54-hole lead.

The latest number is the most troubling three surgeries on his left knee in five years.

Two days after a grueling U.S. Open that took him five days and 91 holes to win, Woods said Wednesday he will have reconstructive surgery on his left knee to repair a torn anterior cruciate ligament, forcing him to miss the rest of the season.

"While I am obviously disappointed to have to miss the remainder of the season, I have to do the right thing for my long-term health and look forward to returning to competitive golf when my doctors agree that my knee is sufficiently healthy," Woods said on his Web site. "My doctors assure me with the proper rehabilitation and training, the knee will be strong and there will be no long-term effects."

And it wasn't just the knee hurting him at Torrey Pines.

Woods also revealed that he had a double stress fracture in his left tibia, suffered two weeks before the U.S. Open as he tried to prepare for the Memorial.

What was he doing playing the U.S. Open?

"You don't get to be Tiger Woods by having everyone tell you what to do," swing coach Hank Haney said.

That apparently includes doctors.

Haney was with Woods in Florida when doctors discovered the stress fractures and recommended the proper course of action three weeks on crutches, followed by three weeks of rest.

"Tiger looked at the doctor and said, 'I'm playing the U.S. Open and I'm going to win.' And then he started putting on his shoes,'" Haney said. "He looked at me and said, 'Come on, Hank. We'll just putt today.' Every night, I kept thinking there was no chance he's going to play. He had to stop in his tracks for 30 seconds walking from the dining room table to the refrigerator.

"He was not going to miss the U.S. Open at Torrey Pines. There just wasn't any discussion."

Now, the discussion shifts to his left knee.

Woods first had a benign cyst removed in 1994 when he was in college. Five years ago, he had surgery to remove fluid from inside and around the ACL. He had surgery again April 15, two days after the Masters, to clean out cartilage in the left knee.

Woods said he tore the ACL while running at home after the British Open last year, but it didn't bother him. He finished out the year by winning four of five tournaments, including a major. He stayed home in the offseason, hopeful that rest would help his knee, but the pain returned in the spring as Woods won his first four tournaments.

He said the cartilage damage was a result of the torn ACL, and he thought surgery in April would help get him through the year. Those hopes ended at Torrey Pines at a U.S. Open that will be remembered as much for the pain he was in as his 19-hole playoff victory.

"I was determined, though, to do everything and anything in my power to play in the U.S. Open at Torrey Pines, which is a course that is close to where I grew up and holds many special memories for me," Woods said. "Although I will miss the rest of the 2008 season, I'm thrilled with the fact that last week was such a special tournament."

His next surgery has widespread ramifications.

Woods will miss a major for the first time in his career, the British Open at Royal Birkdale. Coincidentally, it was at Birkdale in 1998 where Nicklaus' record of consecutive majors played ended at 146. Woods was the only player with a reasonable chance to match that record, but not anymore.

"Tiger is an enormous attraction, there's no denying that," Royal & Ancient chief executive Peter Dawson said. "But the Open Championship has had many exciting finishes which Tiger has not been part of, and I'm sure there will be more. It's very sad. We're very sorry that he's succumbed to the injury and he won't be competing in the Open.

"We hope he has the speediest recovery."

Woods also will miss the PGA Championship, where he was the two-time defending champion. And in September, he will not be part of the Ryder Cup team at Valhalla.

"We sent him flowers for winning the U.S. Open. Now I wish I had put in a note of condolences," U.S. captain Paul Azinger quipped. "But this is not about Tiger and the Ryder Cup. It's about Tiger getting better and his march to history."

The majors won't miss Woods nearly as much as the PGA Tour and the networks that televise it especially in the second year of the FedEx Cup, which Woods won in a landslide last year.

"Now, it is clear that the right thing to do is to listen to my doctors, follow through with this surgery and focus my attention on rehabilitating my knee," Woods said.

Woods, 32, did not say when he would have surgery, but he canceled a clinic that was scheduled for Tuesday at Comerica Park in Detroit. Haney said the typical recovery is six to eight months.

"There will be debate whether he rushed back for the U.S. Open," said Mark Steinberg, his agent at IMG. "But I don't think there will be any debate that he rushes back from his next surgery. He won't need to. Augusta is in April. And if things go according to plan, he'll be able to play an event or two or three."

Woods first went to Haney toward the end of 2002 to overhaul a violent swing that was putting enormous pressure on his left knee. Haney suspects the pain has been increasing, and Woods stopped hitting balls after his rounds at last year's British Open.

"He's been playing way less than 100 percent for a long, long, time," Haney said. "It has limited him a lot in practice. He's going to come back better than he's ever been."

06-19-2008, 03:37 PM
I can't think of anything that concerns me less.

I'm sick of hearing all about this on ESPN radio. It's just making the NFL offseason just seem longer for me.

Golf if a skill, not a sport. IMO

06-19-2008, 04:29 PM
Anyone Care?



06-19-2008, 04:58 PM
Man, you guys don't need to "beat around the bush"... Tell me what you really think... :lol:


06-19-2008, 05:01 PM
If golf is a skill, then NASCAR is a board game.

06-19-2008, 05:15 PM
If golf is a skill, then NASCAR is a board game.

I don't mind NASCAR either.... Man, you guys are gonna give me a complex!... :Hater

stlrz d
06-19-2008, 08:07 PM
If golf is a skill, then NASCAR is a board game.


Yes I care. Been a Tiger fan since before he turned pro, and yes I believe golf event attendance and TV ratings will both decline with him out.

Mr Smartmonies
06-19-2008, 11:46 PM
I care. I think it would have been special to have been able to watch Babe Ruth play. I know it was special to have witnessed the Jordan career. Woods is simply amazing. Forget the physical part of his game. His mental game is unbelievably great. I have never seen anything like it. And he won that tourney with a torn ACL and a broken fibula.

06-20-2008, 03:29 AM
I think all Nascar drivers should be kneecapped to compete with this guy.


06-20-2008, 04:00 AM
If golf is a skill, then NASCAR is a board game.


Yes I care. Been a Tiger fan since before he turned pro, and yes I believe golf event attendance and TV ratings will both decline with him out.

Word brother. You and MSM summed it up nicely. We are watching something truly historic and when its all said and done, he'll have records that will last forever, IMO. The performance at US Open was nothing short of amazing. This is what legends are made of. People in the future will note the records set, but we're seeing history being made here, and that performance, under his now documented physical ailments, during such a clutch situation.... truly brave and up there with Jordan's performance in game 5 of the '97 NBA finals. Jordan battling flu the night before and was still in bed 3 hours before tip off, losing so much weight due to sweats and chills that he lost 6 pounds in 2 days. Dehydrated and vomiting, the guy still managed to suck it up and drop 38 points (15 in the fourth quarter) winning the game.

1) Anybody who doesn't care about Woods is cheating themselves out of witnessing out of something that probably will not be matched in his respective sport.

2) Anybody who doesn't view golf as a sport has never played the game. One of the hardest sports I've ever had the frustration/elation of ever playing.

06-20-2008, 10:25 AM
I'll miss the Nordgren twins. :cry:


06-20-2008, 12:41 PM
I enjoy watching the majors and watching Tiger Woods' assault on Jack's 18 major record. Tiger is a once in a lifetime athlete and the only others that I can think of right of the top of my head are Jerry Rice and Michael Jordan. These three athletes were already very good at their chosen sport, but, the dedication and practice and absolute refusal to be second at anything propelled them to be named as the best that has ever lived at what they do.

Other players that may be mentioned always carry the "yea, he was great, but, no better than (insert name)" stigma. These 3 stand alone at the pinnacle of their sports.

Typically, I support an underdog, but, when Tiger is in the field I always hope that he wins. He is simply the most mentally gifted athlete of our time and that includes the other two mentioned in this post.

Just as an example of Tiger's affect on everything, the stock market traded 8.5% less volume on Monday during the playoff as compared to the rest of the year. There's always about a 7% increase in viewership for any tournament in which Tiger competes. And, Buick has withdrawn their ad campaign from the PGA tour (or the events that Tiger was entered), since, his announcement that he was shutting it down for the year.

Rather than make fun of the sport take a look at the athlete and enjoy what you are seeing. I doubt we see anything like this again in our lifetimes.