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SMASHMOUTHFOOTBALL
05-23-2008, 12:18 AM
I believe it is June when teams start cut downs and I know it isn't as significant as it use to be but there is no football and I need some thought as to who we may cut after June 1. Also any pickups to be considered that may get cut from another team?

Possible cuts: Davenport, Willie Reid--others who may save us some significant $--Thoughts???

NKySteeler
05-23-2008, 12:20 AM
I thought the cuts started in August, once the pre-season games start. Then happen each week... I could be wrong, though.......

...Hopefully Reid is one of the first ones!

Iron Shiek
05-23-2008, 12:23 AM
I don't know about a money saver, but I don't see T. Carter making it out alive...

hawaiiansteel
05-23-2008, 02:37 AM
I thought the cuts started in August, once the pre-season games start. Then happen each week... I could be wrong, though.......

...Hopefully Reid is one of the first ones!



I'm hoping that Willie Reid comes into training camp and shows us why we drafted him in the 3rd round...he is definitely on the bubble though and needs to make some big plays early on not only as a WR but also as a punt and kickoff returner.

As for June 1st cuts, I don't foresee the Steelers cutting anyone.

AngryAsian
05-23-2008, 06:17 AM
I thought the cuts started in August, once the pre-season games start. Then happen each week... I could be wrong, though.......

...Hopefully Reid is one of the first ones!



I'm hoping that Willie Reid comes into training camp and shows us why we drafted him in the 3rd round...he is definitely on the bubble though and needs to make some big plays early on not only as a WR but also as a punt and kickoff returner.

As for June 1st cuts, I don't foresee the Steelers cutting anyone.


I don't know why, but I likewise am a big Reid supporter... but if he doesn't "own" a position as the number PR or KR, he needs gone. He's had his share of chances.

calmkiller
05-23-2008, 08:05 AM
June first cuts don't really exist like they did in the past.

Oviedo
05-23-2008, 08:08 AM
I thought the cuts started in August, once the pre-season games start. Then happen each week... I could be wrong, though.......

...Hopefully Reid is one of the first ones!



I'm hoping that Willie Reid comes into training camp and shows us why we drafted him in the 3rd round...he is definitely on the bubble though and needs to make some big plays early on not only as a WR but also as a punt and kickoff returner.

As for June 1st cuts, I don't foresee the Steelers cutting anyone.


I don't know why, but I likewise am a big Reid supporter... but if he doesn't "own" a position as the number PR or KR, he needs gone. He's had his share of chances.

I think this will be Reid's year. He is one of those players who fans want to hang out to dry, but other than not living up to the immense returner hype, what has he done wrong? When he has gotten opportunities he has made catches. Remember last training camp when the DBs were nailing the WRs. The one thing mentioned was that he was getting drilled and not dropping the ball. He is better value than our $1.4M per year #4 receiver and will make tougher catches and actually get additional yards after the catch. He is also the most logical candidate to play in the slot other than Hines. He has the quick, ability to run after the catch you need for that position.

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
05-23-2008, 09:57 AM
The Steelers don't really have anyone on the roster who becomes a good June 1 cut candidate because of the extra savings.

For example, cutting Davenport saves $1M, but because he is in the last year of his deal the savings is the same if we cut him today.

For Ty Carter, the difference in cutting him after June 1 is less than $100K. Reid is in the last year of his deal, so his savings are the same today and after June 1.

The ideal candidate for a June 1 cut is a player with maybe one or two years left on his deal after this year. You don't want a guy who had too high a SB, unless you feel like this is your must win year, because you would have to swallow a lot of dead cap space next year. It obviously also has to be a player who you consider replaceable by someone on your roster, otherwise you will have to go out and spend good money on a replacement.

Players on our roster who fit the money requirement are guys like BMac and Deshea. Both players would give us a little extra wiggle room financially and not kill us too badly next year. However, they don't meet the football criteria since both players are expected to be major contributors to our defensive backfield.

Shawn
05-23-2008, 10:11 AM
Before the injury Reid was explosive. Now, not so much. It seems he lost that
burst after the injury. I would bet $$$ that Reid is gone. It seems Baker is
emerging and we all know that that means.

RuthlessBurgher
05-23-2008, 10:20 AM
I thought the cuts started in August, once the pre-season games start. Then happen each week... I could be wrong, though.......

...Hopefully Reid is one of the first ones!



I'm hoping that Willie Reid comes into training camp and shows us why we drafted him in the 3rd round...he is definitely on the bubble though and needs to make some big plays early on not only as a WR but also as a punt and kickoff returner.

As for June 1st cuts, I don't foresee the Steelers cutting anyone.


I don't know why, but I likewise am a big Reid supporter... but if he doesn't "own" a position as the number PR or KR, he needs gone. He's had his share of chances.

I think this will be Reid's year. He is one of those players who fans want to hang out to dry, but other than not living up to the immense returner hype, what has he done wrong? When he has gotten opportunities he has made catches. Remember last training camp when the DBs were nailing the WRs. The one thing mentioned was that he was getting drilled and not dropping the ball. He is better value than our $1.4M per year #4 receiver and will make tougher catches and actually get additional yards after the catch. He is also the most logical candidate to play in the slot other than Hines. He has the quick, ability to run after the catch you need for that position.

Nate has shown to be ten times the WR that Reid has been so far.

Nate is an UDFA from tiny Tiffin that has 64 catches for 1,074 yards (16.8 yards per catch) and 9 touchdowns in the last 2 seasons.

Reid is a 3rd round pick from big-time FSU that has 4 catches for 54 yards (13.5 yards per catch) and 0 touchdowns in the last 2 seasons.

Nate is also a full year younger than Reid as well (Nate's D.O.B. 8-28-83 vs. Reid's 9-19-82)

I don't know why you are stuck on the $1.4 million dollar thing with Nate. By today's standards, that is not a lot of money at all. At least Nate has produced for the $1.4 mil. Reid hasn't shown jack squat for the approximately $600K he's owed this season.

Shawn
05-23-2008, 10:22 AM
That right there is $$$ Ruthless.

Oviedo
05-23-2008, 10:41 AM
I thought the cuts started in August, once the pre-season games start. Then happen each week... I could be wrong, though.......

...Hopefully Reid is one of the first ones!



I'm hoping that Willie Reid comes into training camp and shows us why we drafted him in the 3rd round...he is definitely on the bubble though and needs to make some big plays early on not only as a WR but also as a punt and kickoff returner.

As for June 1st cuts, I don't foresee the Steelers cutting anyone.


I don't know why, but I likewise am a big Reid supporter... but if he doesn't "own" a position as the number PR or KR, he needs gone. He's had his share of chances.

I think this will be Reid's year. He is one of those players who fans want to hang out to dry, but other than not living up to the immense returner hype, what has he done wrong? When he has gotten opportunities he has made catches. Remember last training camp when the DBs were nailing the WRs. The one thing mentioned was that he was getting drilled and not dropping the ball. He is better value than our $1.4M per year #4 receiver and will make tougher catches and actually get additional yards after the catch. He is also the most logical candidate to play in the slot other than Hines. He has the quick, ability to run after the catch you need for that position.

Nate has shown to be ten times the WR that Reid has been so far.

Nate is an UDFA from tiny Tiffin that has 64 catches for 1,074 yards (16.8 yards per catch) and 9 touchdowns in the last 2 seasons.

Reid is a 3rd round pick from big-time FSU that has 4 catches for 54 yards (13.5 yards per catch) and 0 touchdowns in the last 2 seasons.

Nate is also a full year younger than Reid as well (Nate's D.O.B. 8-28-83 vs. Reid's 9-19-82)

I don't know why you are stuck on the $1.4 million dollar thing with Nate. By today's standards, that is not a lot of money at all. At least Nate has produced for the $1.4 mil. Reid hasn't shown jack squat for the approximately $600K he's owed this season.

Because as a #4 receiver he will not be on the field 90% of the time and he can't seem to find a role on ST despite his "freakish athletic ability."

Chucktownsteeler
05-23-2008, 10:44 AM
I don't know the exact timing of cuts, but I think Nick Eason should go. I would rather see them bring in a young guy than keep this lug.

Maybe McFarland is ready to go by then.

Shawn
05-23-2008, 10:48 AM
To suggest we should keep Reid over Washington is insane. First,
Reid hasn't proven his worth as a WR or as a return man. Washington
has produced for a #3-#4 WR. This is an EASY choice. I'm surprised
we are even debating it.

papillon
05-23-2008, 12:28 PM
To suggest we should keep Reid over Washington is insane. First,
Reid hasn't proven his worth as a WR or as a return man. Washington
has produced for a #3-#4 WR. This is an EASY choice. I'm surprised
we are even debating it.

Isn't this what we do? :shock:

Pappy